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#1
s0mebody
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They want to legitimize it so bad

#2
LocoMonteiro
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it is legit... if TH lifegaming for the event and becoming shit afterwards was an argument, 90% of VCT trophies wouldnt be legit either

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babysasuke
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It seems you're one of the "they" he was talking about 😞

#8
LocoMonteiro
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i hate heretics and their EWC win was flukey as fuck but thinking EWC is a mickey mouse on the level of off season tournaments is just low IQ

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sentinelmain377
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"babysasuke" is the biggest NA ragebaiter and he provides 0 facts/logic for his arguments.

he doesnt gaf if he's wrong

#34
babysasuke
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the type of shit your brain makes you say when you get rinsed in an argument trying to defend bumster

#14
Big-Bot-Brim
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where is your laze clan

#17
babysasuke
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pride of FaZe Clan KING BABYBAY is about to win his first, long-overdue international trophy while you watch and cry like a toddler

#32
Big-Bot-Brim
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b0byb0y wont win shit. He never will

#33
babysasuke
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I feel like you're saying this just to hurt me

#37
Big-Bot-Brim
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giggity

#7
s0mebody
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Probably the most fluke trophy there is. Until they fix that format, that tournament isn't it lol

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bangkok was an even bigger fluke, so was Santiago, so was champs 2024, so was champs 2023, and to some extent so was champs 2025, thats my point
you cant fault TH for the fluke win when VCT specializes on Fluke wins, PRX is the only team to maintain form after winning since Fnatic 2023

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  1. EMEA wins anyways (FNC was 2nd)
  2. A lot of VCT trophies are just a team popping off for one event as well. TH doing that for EWC doesnt make it mickey.
  3. the format is the most fair (no double map ban)
#21
AegisJT
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Message for saudimain377

Here is your 7K check for supporting EWC. Thank you for your continued support and shilling for Esports World Cup. We here at the Saudi Fund for Development appreciate your support of Vision 2030.

Kind Regards,
Mohammed bin Salman

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sentinelmain377
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free money glitch

Esports World Cup Defense:

  1. The Esports World Cup is a global, S-Tier Tournament - https://liquipedia.net/valorant/S-Tier_Tournaments
  2. $1.25mil Prize Pool for 2025, $2mil Prize Pool for 2026 (both greater than a Masters event)
  3. The teams that attended the Esports World Cup 2025 qualified through VCT Stage 1 or the EWC qualifiers. There were 0 invitations (unlike RedBull and other off-seasons). The best teams of the world at the time were playing and competing for the 1.25mil prize pool. Similar EWC qualification stage for 2026.
  4. ALL VCT teams have EWC as a part of their schedule a year in advance (unlike other non-VCT tournaments). It is unserious to consider EWC as an irrelevant tournament. ALL teams have plans for it before the season starts.
  5. Objectively, EWC is a valid tournament (equal to a Masters at the minimum). Politics do not decide whether the tournament is mickey or not.
  6. EWC is a yearly tournament (2025 onwards until 2028 minimum). This is not a one-time tournament.
  7. Format:
    Single-Elim Playoffs & Grand Finals (The EWC Grand Final is more fair than any VCT Grand Final because there is no 2-map ban advantage for either of the finalists)
    Consolation Final (to ensure the 3rd and 4th place teams get the prize money they deserve)
    Group Stage: All winner/loser/decider matches are a best of 3 (same group stage format as VCT Champions).
  8. Rewards better-performing regions: (EMEA did the best at EWC 2025, so they get an additional slot at EWC 2026 which is taken from the worst-performing region at EWC 2025 (China)).
#29
LocoMonteiro
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"free thinking" virtue signaling Valorant fans when money comes from Saudi: 👎👎👎👎
"free thinking" virtue signaling Valorant fans when money comes from China: 👍👍👍👍

#30
AegisJT
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I don’t particularly care about the Saudis or anything, but this comparison is stupid, China isn’t directly funding events and shit. Also the reason is Mickey Mouse is because it’s explicitly not a VCT global event which reduces prestige so teams won’t care as much about it. This isn’t CS where you have a bunch of non-Valve tourneys with prestige.

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which reduces prestige so teams won’t care as much about it.

if you genuinely believe this i dont think theres any point arguing, i know Valorant is a hobby to VLR but to the players its a job, and i dont think anyone is passing up a 500K bonus at their job because there is no "prestige", if "prestige" spoke louder than money i promise you Vookashu would have returned to EMEA after his first china year

#36
AegisJT
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Legacy matters to players, especially top players a lot man, and i promise you the vast majority of VCT players, even Heretics, would rather win a masters despite a lower prize pool.

#39
LocoMonteiro
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if the players were given the choice between a 500K PP VCT event and a 2M PP EWC, which one do you think they would choose?

#22
s0mebody
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Not using it as a region war. But you can't call the format fair just because it has no double map ban. Playoffs without lower bracket is just dumb af.

#26
vibemerchant_25
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wait we don't like the double map ban anymore? It makes complete sense no? It's not insurmountable if you have an actually good map pool. Plus it's not impossible for teams to still win like in bangkok where t1 still won. Besides what else would be the advantage for upper bracket? In rocket league you literally have to play the whole series again if lower bracket wins

#27
sentinelmain377
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the Upper Final should be bo5 then the double map ban is reasonable

bo3 upper final is too easy to fluke

#38
vibemerchant_25
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Fair enough actually

#12
sentinelmain377
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yup

#40
backslider
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No one is using that defense to illegitimize it, plus it’s not even correct TH went on to perform decently well at champs after

#3
melon_fan
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Comeback will have a masters before they ever do anything 😹

#19
Goonster
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mfs be jus sayin shi to say shi🤣🤣

#4
irishsamingg
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That was a choke from fnc nothing else th fluked that trophy they are awful lmao

#6
melon_fan
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Harder fluke than Acend 2021 😹😹😹😹

#13
Germy
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how? they legit JUST won emea bro... EWC was sorta flukey buyt its not like TH are a bad team, unlike acend

#16
melon_fan
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I just wanted to stray acend lowk

#18
sentinelmain377
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Acend were a good team throughout 2021 (Won Masters 1 EU, etc)

It is AMERPAC propaganda and misinfo about older times telling you otherwise.

It was a fair grand final btw (no double map ban)

#24
melon_fan
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Stage 1 2022 tho

#25
sentinelmain377
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zeek apparently had "mental health" issues or something idk and he got kicked after

there was something that went wrong for them.

#9
asunaluvr
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its legit
ewc > 8 team masters
ewc = 12 team masters

#10
s0mebody
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No way in hell EWC is comparable to 12 team masters. Fix that shit format first then we'll talk.

#31
n0sey
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100T qualified to EWC, for that reason she is supporting EWC right now. Unfortunately for her 100T is getting back home in few matches even in EWC hahahahahaha

#28
Janoo
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Tbf Heretics fluked EWC, but Fnatic just gifted them the final like they did not wanted the trophy in first place because it was so sus the way they lost.

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