aspas analysis, problems mostly

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abjbwtf

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I'm not here to shove stats of any kind, this is a mere observation.

aspas exudes strong habits of a Counter Strike player in terms of how he plays sometimes. The way he often plays around his teammates happens way too often.

If he is in ATK and his teammate(s) are taking the first engagement (i.e first to clear angles [slowly or not], take space, jiggling), aspas is always holding his teammates' unchecked angles for them as they take first contact.

Now, obviously this is just common sense for anyone above shit elo, but I feel like it is not taken into consideration enough in his case. aspas always plays duelist and the "tactic" aforementioned, I can not confidently name any other duelist who finds themselves in that situation more than aspas and this is likely the reason why he is regarded as a hard baiter to a good amount of people.

I am not saying it is a good or a bad thing. It is just one part of his playstyle. Evidently, it is good as he is regarded the best individual Valorant player of all time.

To me, aspas' structure as an individual is so fundamentally solid and consistently in form that it feels like a detriment at times. While the introduction of variability to his structure seems like the answer, it would also take away the very unique stagnant but effective gameplay he owns.

By the time the enemy begins planting A, best believe aspas is still anchoring C and will be arriving late to the retake, and in many occasions, be the last man standing. If he is AWPing on defense, a good team will be able to figure out where he is, especially Americas teams who has played more games against him compared to other regions. From tendencies, habits, setups, and positioning, teams can figure out aspas because his lack of variability.

At the same time and unlike most duelists, his fundamentals and protocals are so tactical and "proper" that sometimes he can just win through sheer dominance especially with the amount of experience he has.

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tldr baitpas and statspas

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you prolly watch ai fruit island or sum shit

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yuser

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shitsemenspas tears on my forum

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womp womp aspas is a fraud and a baiter

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that first habit is something that is hard drilled into my brain being a sentinel player idk why the team has decided thats his role, i guess its what he's most comfortable doing or they think he has more impact doing that

i think that utilizing such a special player as aspas is a lot more complicated than the definitions of roles

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The first habit is a great habit to have for everyone and undebatably, very necessary. I still see Immortal players not have that down to be able to do it unconsciously.

Anyways, It isn't because MIBR willingly, or at least I hope not, have him not take first initiations for when MIBR takes a section of the map slowly. Watching aspas closely, he places himself in the "backline" until the time comes to hard push, but if they do a contact play, it isn't guaranteed he'll be one of the first two out LMAO

He just isn't a traditional duelis.

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yeah which i think is fine, the reason his sacrificial hard entry play worked for LOUD in 2022 is because of the unbelievable supporting cast with 3 incredible fraggers in Less, pANcada, and Sacy. i think the chemistry that team had going from tier 2 as a unit to being the best team in the world is kinda something u cant replicate and i feel like aspas just wouldn't have the same success with that playstyle on the teams he's been on since. he's evolved into a star fragger and his impact on the game is very easy to see even if he's baiting his teammates

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I think we are at a near NBA point in Valorant where a 2017 Lebron won't be able to single handedly carry his team to finals anymore. It has worked for him in the past, but so far this year, it has been lackluster.

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He’s just not a duelist
He’s a good player but not duelist

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abjbwtf

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The role of a "duelist" is someone who will often take the first initiatives to either get the first contact/pick and/or aggressively create/control space at the expense of risk.

In all the years of aspas, whether he was on LOUD, LEV, or MIBR, he has proven that he is able to take on that exact role and consistently be among the top when he does. Yes, there are better hard entries than him, but it does not mean he's far behind them.

At the same time, you can also see the great results where aspas is playing more tactically, less gung-ho than what most duelists would do (not including set plays/traps). It feels like controlled intent.

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put him on chamber

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he didnt like chamber in 22 and thats why Less and pANcada kinda shared the duties

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this is why I think MIBR need a coach with balls because Fraud(fRod) doesn't have any

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deadpark

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by coach with balls u mean a coach that will impose characters for him to use?

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Yep, I know his performance is heavily affected because of his Health condition but mostly I think too much comfort isn't that good for a player as well

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deadpark

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he gave an interview recently saying that his character picks and some other decisions were out of his hands
here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Ms3nvhAdE

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all i say is he has good mechanics and one of the best jett but require great igling. Hes not that good spacemaker and dive entry. And his agent pool is limited. ANd he kinda does bait sometimes 😅

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asspass

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mondely

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so he plays like a sentinel. got it, get him on chamber

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I've always said aspas playing duelist with flex Chamber fits him extremely well, and it doesn't seem to be a comfortability issue because he has played Chamber in pro before, extremely well in fact.

I obviously can not speak on his behalf, but it seems he prefers self-sufficiency and movement so it could be an ego issue as to why he does not play Chamber.

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bruh we aint seeing mibr till july can we talk about nrg instead😍

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I have great Analysis on them as well their game plan is really solid let me break it down, these plans are amazing.

Spam smokes with Odin.
Spam smokes with Phantom.
Spam walls with Odin.
Play incredibly boring comps with which you can delay for 1:00 minute in the whole round so that other teams only have 30 seconds by then our spammer will be on the site and smokes will be back and that brings us to the last part of the plan
follow 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Plan.

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if it works, it works😍😍😍

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you can break it down to even less words

Eat
Sleep
Spam
repeat

I wanted to add Delay too but it doesn't sounds great

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sent NRG packing home at Santiago btw dont know what youre saying