anything he does vyse or viper do better
so whats his purpose
cypher's purpose on lotus
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The cam gives good passive info i guess and cages are good for a fight. Its really just a nats decision
it was for lotus
he talked about that in the last game post match interview
Never thought he was good on this map idk what's changed for people to think otherwise
I guess yeah but you can get info in other ways that let you play a better character overall
he was good before when his camera didn't tell you "hello im watching you" and when the trips weren't mega shit
True that definitely doesn't help but honestly I've always thought chamber and kj were better on lotus
I think chamber on lotus is one of the few maps where the reward is worth the risk you can hold so much map control on both sides and obviously if you can hit your shots you can waste util in a way noone else can or play in spots nearly exclusive to the agent
In a theoretically optimal world I'd say chamber is great on this map but obviously it's not realistic to rely on whether or not someone feels like hitting their shots on the day
i don't like that he has no good stalling methods (Vyse) or info denial (viper)
and as you said its mostly reliant on shooting well
Half because people are convinced she sucks for some reason (she doesn't) and half because I do think she's worse than other sentinels into neon (but honestly the other options besides vyse suck anyway so unless you run vyse I don't think it's relevant)
the dumping of kj across the board since vyse was introduced just seems so overreactionary especially after the vyse flash info nerf as well as cypher nerfs. if its literally just because of neon then i guess but i have a feeling even if the neon nerfs nuke her pickrate it still won't bring kj back for some reason
It didn’t, FNATIC plays her on Lotus to great success. KJ is still a good option, she just isn’t stronger than Vyse, who has much stronger stall (but less passive info)
Chamber is terrible in pro play on lotus, you need a strong C anchor. its way too easy to push chamber off the line
Just watch vo0kashu play cypher on Lotus instead and you will see what an actual good Cypher looks like on the map instead of that fraud nats.
the fact there are teams out there not playing KRU's lotus comp genuinely baffles me
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