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Foxym
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a personal computer with a trinary system instead of binary system

a normal PC does constant binary calculations
a 64 bit operating system can hold alot of data
if all bits were 1 we would have a number of 18446744073709551616 (2^64)
which again, is alot

a trinary would have 3 states instead of 2
so with 2 tri's we would have a max of 6 (if all were 2) so a max of 7 possibilities with 2 tri's
while with only 2 bits we would have a max of 4 possibilities

i might be stupid and explaining it wrong
im not a computer scientist after all so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_numeral_system

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aketrps
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ok, but why?

#4
Foxym
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i belive it would lead to stronger computers due to the ability to potentially hold and calculate more data
but again, i might be just stupid here

#3
asunaluvr
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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

#5
twigster001
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bro is not john lennon

#21
riensluvr
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bro don't say that now you're gonna get shot

#6
senyagi
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imagine asteroid hit us tmrw

#7
Foxym
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with all the space monitoring we have, highly unlikely that an asteroid will hit us tomorow
scientist are able to calculate something like that months ahead and would potentially warn us if the risk is real

#9
senyagi
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we know nothing about universe imagine a wormhole forms
where scientists can't detect, spits a asteriod on us and we go boooom....

#8
larplarplarpsahur
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because we do not need more than the states we can represent with 1/0 for most computation (considering all of the logic gates we can make out of just both)

#10
GroKayou
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Imagine dragons (the misery)

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The problem with this will most likely be error correction. The binary systems work so well because there are very robust error correction algorithms that allow us to build comupters on the very limit of physics and be fine. A ternary system would need to encode three states, which would add some uncertainty to the state. If you are able to somehow extend our existing error correction to the ternary system maybe it would work but at that point why stop at 3? Quantum computers technically encode a lot more data since you can fit a lot of information in the superposed state. Interestingly the only reason we don't have quantum computers already is error correction. It's an open unsolved problem as of now.

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larplarplarpsahur
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it's quite literally just cheaper. A major bottleneck in quantum experimentation (and the reason why research laps it) is because state preparation takes a fuck ton of time. You (homelab user) will never be able to buy a quantum computer onprem , at least not for the forseeable future

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vibemerchant_25
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Yea that's a big problem too. Decoherence right? But I believe there are at least some ideas on how to fix that, super cooling and other kinda meh but at least possible solutions. The whole error correction thing seems to be a complete mystery and I think it's starting to look pretty theoretically heavy. I think they are working on topological solutions to it too. Its not my field though so all of this is stuff I've heard from friends in the field, I don't know more than the basics in all of this.

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well there is work to extend the hamming codes for quantum computing uses, but idk much about that. as of now, you can test out fancy computation like shors algo using compute from platforms like ionq IBM quantum (this is a better recommendation I think), so they handle all the setups n shit, but the closest we're going to get is terms of ease of use is provisioned infra. for now, theory laps and is going to lap it by quite a bit

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correct me if im wrong, im no computer scientist, but isn't the whole point of the binary system that it relies on the computers ability to recognize two states ( on and off in electrical circuits) and thus code data with 0 and 1s? How would that work in the trinary system

#16
Foxym
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i found this wikipedia article on ternary or trinary computers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

#17
jixk
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the only thing i can think of is a Qbit which is the quantum computer bit(from my 1 tiktok worth of knowledge) but i doubt that's what we are talking about cause Qbits can hold both a 1 and a 0

#18
jixk
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long story short from my zero knowledge on the topic:
nobody is doing allat

#19
Mqrio
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you are not beating the stinky allegations

#20
nightwinter14
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building a computer with a tertiary system would be practically unfeasible. ignoring the fact that re-designing every computer part from a binary model to a ternary model (which is the most challenging factor about all this), modern computers have binary parts that are so optimized it would literally take decades before a ternary system to replicate modern optimization.

also binary systems are much much more reliable because you are only differentiating two states of voltage instead of three in a ternary model, making any other model much more prone to failure due to the smaller margin of error. currently, most people are okay with computer parts failing every couple of years, but with a ternary model is much more prone to like a small voltage fluctuation.

allat summarized: its a lot simpler, cheaper, faster, and more reliable to build binary computers

#23
Foxym
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i understand, the math is also simpler
2^x
x = the amount of bits

#22
ATAT7
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I mean I don't know enough about the topic either but aren't quantum computers the final evolution of your idea

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