here is my list tell me if im wrong/missing someone
tejo
phoenix
chamber
vyse
omen
astra
brimstone
harbor
skye
sova
fade
waylay
killjoy
agents that are balanced currently
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id like to see jett get another updraft cus she’s not that good, she’s only played as a comfort pick
raze is probably balanced yea
Jett is in a really good state currently, you just don't see a lot of Jett play since Neon is currently meta. But if they managed to rein Neon back, Jett will easily become the most picked duelist alongside pheonix on non-raze maps
We're already seeing waylay fall cuz of the change to saturate cuz the mosquito style was the way that the teams used her
waylay requires more team setup for entries so players might take jett out of comfort since they're so similar and jett is a little more selfish
Vyse isn't balanced till they give the info flash back. It's such a small thing plus it's something a sentinel should have. How does it make sense that skye, an initiator can send her bird flying 30m+ to give info when a fixed position flash that has windup time and can be broken doesn't?
vyse is only balanced currently cus it counters neon very well, and neon is almost always played
when neon gets nerfed, vyse needs a small buff to become viable again
I dont think thats how balance works
Also by that logic we're only seeing her at like 30% in americas, compared to 80% Neon across all regions
So even that logic fails
But that's not how agents should be balanced. They should do their job without being unstoppable. there's nothing wrong with an agent being good at what they are supposed to do as long as there is counter play. The problem with neon is sentinels cannot reliably do anything about her. You shouldn't have to counter pick sentinels to be able to deal with a particular duelist all of them should be able to do their job properly.
lowkey she doesn’t even need flash info back
I feel like without it, she still does her job and she’s still the most effective sentinel at holding and stalling site
The biggest con with her kit is she isn’t good at gaining info which is a fine weakness to have, especially when the rest of the sentinels are in a much weaker state than she is
I mean I agree that she's in a good spot right now but that's partly cause every other sentinel is ass like you said. The info flash made her complete. It is also not particularly broken since the windup time is large and you can't use it like any other flash, you'd still need to place it. It allowed you to keep control of a site even without being there like every other anchoring sentinel nowadays. They even removed the range on chamber to let him do this.
It allowed you to keep control of a site even without being there like every other anchoring sentinel nowadays. They even removed the range on chamber to let him do this.
? Killjoy
Vyse getting her info flash back would just mean there’s basically no reason to pick anyone else because she has no weaknesses. None of the others are “complete” they all have downsides
Fair enough but KJ honestly they can remove the range on the alarm bot I think its long overdue. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that all the other trips are universal when this one is not. The turret needs a range so that is fair.
My only gripe is that this logic doesn't seem to apply to other classes where they can do everything. Skye can heal, flash, drone and gather info with her flash. Which is insane when you think about it. I think if the flash info is tuned enough it can be fine. Maybe make it more visible so that it's not a perma info gathering tool.
Also an aside regarding the weaknesses. Even if vyse doesn't have info flash she will be picked just cause of how bad sentinels are right now. You could just play double smokes and be fine. Which is honestly worse that a whole class of agents are somewhat useless now. To maintain healthy pick rates everyone needs to be viable. If everyone is nerfed then the least nerfed will look good.
cypher chuds are still buttmad over his cage nerf but he vyse and chamber are still easily gapping all the other sentinels in this meta. there’s no fucking way you can say killjoy is balanced but cypher isn’t
yeah it doesn't trap people inside it anymore you're allowed to walk out of them
Cypher cage never had such a thing
Only thing i guess was waay before you had cypher cage could slow people
Honestly the trap rework as a senti main feels bad cuz you dont get the same fun. But its mayb just a me thing
That’s nice but whether you’re having fun or not doesn’t change the fact that his entire kit is more powerful than killjoys which has been slowly nerfed down to the point where kj might as well be a cosmetic skin on a cs character
Viper is honestly pretty balanced in the sense that you can’t do much more to her kit without either changing an ability or making her severely weaker
Also does clove being left off this list imply you think she’s overtuned or undertuned
if u wanted to make her viable in vct and not broken in ranked u’d need to rework her so idk what my answer is
I think they should (if they haven’t already) just give up on her as a vct option and just think of her like Reyna where they only balance her for ranked. And in that case she probably needs to be nerfed because her pickrate and nmwr is absurd. I have no idea how they could do that though
Remove kill requirement so she can heal and dismiss anytime ez balance, make it rito please
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