Patmen kinda clears invy

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Unnecessary roster move

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as an everything else he does
as an initiator invy mogs

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biasedme

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Bro he cannot even do sova ult what u waffling

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Yea

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Invy clears as a senti as well

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CrackedDuelist

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no

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teamhereticsemea

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we still talking about ts bro

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mondely

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patmen is the better player. invy is the better initiator

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Couldn't have said this better , but patmen is good initiator too.

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he couldnt play to his full potential with prx’s roles and system overall

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Yeah he looks better on GE

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faloxxl

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yea so shut it and don't make this thread like a bot

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4so4so4so

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he still clears invy

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Delighted giggling today with all these patmen clears invy thread

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i'm js smiling

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okboxx

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I would take a better player than a better initiator. PRX With patmen 1 masters PRX with invy second place

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invy is a better player

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I could say flair but im using ts as my flair but invy is just better as a initiator and patmen is kinda better on a flex role

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patmen is just better player overall this facts prx did not use him well

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I mean yeah because they only needed an ini not a flex fragger since they already had forsaken

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mission-nectarine

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yall still on this like 4 months later? time to move on gang

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check patmen stats here rq https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2283/valorant-champions-2025

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patmen clears f0rsaken too

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KssS

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get invy off of initiator and he can do the same things patmen can do

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s0mebody

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It's such a dumb comparison like how they were comparing kaajak and patmen before for rookie of the year

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KssS

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yeah both are incredibly talented players. they could replace each other on any team and they'll still have a lot of impact.

i would argue that invy is better than patmen mechanically but patmen's quick thinking is better than invy.

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MECHANICALLY?

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CrackedDuelist

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yes, invy has had better stats than patmen; also, if you have already forgotten at champs 2025 patmen was one of the worst players there

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KssS

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yes MECHANICALLY. That's why paper rex picked him up because they value mechanics

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CaxTonYT

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Only reason patmen wasn't fragging on prx because they had him on roles he wasn't comfortable on. Now look at him.

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whiffing shots doesn't happen due to roles

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KssS

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bruh i ain't saying that patmen isn't mechanically good. im saying that invy is better than him in terms of mechanics. its not that hard to process

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Both Invy and Patmen look great in GE, Carrying mid team as usual

Look what they did in PRX? Also similar.
But PRX win master with Pat..... Shhh. We are talking about individual performance, if you bring team achievement, his teammates also give big impact. There are F0rsaken, D4v4i, Jinggg, and Something, they are not Autumn, Xavi, or Kr1stal

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I dont get why people are comparing these two when they are playing differently.

PATMEN - aggressive Initiator, Good flex, Cracked aim
INVY - Best initiator that can set his team, Cracked aim (Kinda like S1mon on EDG)
both plays in higher level and IQ
Both got high Clutch potential

Means, Patmen is best flex and quick thinking and Invy is best initiator

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If GE don't get a partner slot/lose their roster. Patmen would be a perfect replacement for d4v4i if he retires next year. Great on the lurk and can flex to the same roles.

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I think unc is not retiring anytime soon

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madaTHEdada

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nah unc aint goin nowhere

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he is goat

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invy is by far the best ini in the region, its not even close, holy recency bias post, also invy has been the 2nd best player by rating in prx through kickoff and santiago, idr the stats for this stage so yeah, this is a shit opinion

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It’s not recency bias lmao Hes been better individually all year

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arvk08at

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he didnt make an international and hasn't been as consistent overall, also saying he's better this year is definition recency bias. put him back on prx and he'd be the bottom fragger on that team again

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??? I’m comparing them this year because PRX dropped Patmen going into this year.

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arvk08at

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yea and put patmen back on prx and hes their 5th fragger again.

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prx needed a sova player

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Einrev

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They need the gout, Jessievash lol

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Imagine getting ragebaited by a clown9 fan

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It’s not ragebait its objective truth

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They play different roles on their teams

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Patmen full potential can show if he use viper or omen, but prx just need an initiator main.

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invy suit prx more thy need real init, if patmen still in prx his potential wasted in init jail

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I HAVE SAID THIS SINCE THE START OF THE YEAR

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Antiwitch

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why u mibr now , ts just win a game!!

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does he know

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Abaddon_

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DOESN'T MATTER, just team secret lose these good players they could have

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Me and Patmen clears invy

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better aim and personality