Jingg vs f0rsaken

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In internationals. 1st rating is overall for event and 2nd is elim games.

2022 reyk:
F0rsaken 1.12
Jingg 1.06
In elimination game:
Jingg 0.79
F0rsaken 0.73

2022 copenhagen:
Jingg 1.04(262 acs should be rated higher ngl)
f0rsaken 0.98
Elimination game:
Jingg 1.10
F0rsaken 0.76

2022 champs
Jingg 0.93
F0rsaken 0.91
Elimination game:
Jingg 1.01
F0rsaken 0.94

Lock in
Jingg 1.07
F0rsaken 0.79
Elimination game:
Jingg 1.07
F0rsaken 0.79

Tokyo
Jingg 1.08
F0rsaken 0.96
Elimination game:
Jingg 0.98
F0rsaken 0.92

Champs 2023
F0rsaken 1.01
Jingg 1.0
Elimination game:
Jingg 0.91
F0rsaken 0.87

Madrid
F0rsaken 1.04
Elimination game:
F0rsaken 0.9

shanghai
Jingg 217 acs 0.99 kd
F0rsaken 189 acs 0.89 kd
Elimination game:
F0rsaken 227 acs 55/52
Jingg 210 acs 51/54

Champs 2024
F0rsaken 0.95
Jingg 0.91
Elimination game:
F0rsaken 0.89
Jingg 0.81

Toronto
F0rsaken 1.12
Jingg 1.10
Elimination game:
F0rsaken 1.11
Jingg 1.03

Champions 2025
Jingg 1.05
F0rsaken 1.03
Elimination game:
Jingg 1.26
F0rsaken 0.74

Santiago
Jingg 1.02
F0rsaken 0.96
Elimination game:
Jingg 0.98
F0rsaken 0.75

Tldr: Jingg was better in 7 events and f0rsaken in 4
Jingg was better in 8 elim games and f0rsaken in 3

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unragebaitable13

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unfortunately stats arent everything

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The difference in stats is noticeable enough for them to matter

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unragebaitable13

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eye test > everything and foresaken igls more

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Jingg has one of the best movement in the game and is way more consistent mechanically than f0rsaken
F0rsaken is just more flashy. He will get 1 ace or some good moment and then sleep for the rest of the game making people believe that he's better

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unragebaitable13

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you cant compare their movement when one plays raze and the other one mainly plays omen

vct players would agree with me anyways

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You can
Because movement is not only about raze or neon. There's also movement in normal gun fights which matters a lot. Like for example jawgemo has better movement on raze/neon than aspas but aspas has way better movement in normal gun fights which is one of the reasons why aspas frags out like crazy sometimes

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unragebaitable13

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so it is eye test after all

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if you think that f0rsaken has better mechanics off eye test idk what to tell you bro

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unragebaitable13

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not saying i think jason is better but its debatable

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f0rsaken is smarter as a player and him playing more agents proves that but jingg clearly wins way more aim duels and has more impact on the rounds the difference in their stats is kinda big and it's one of the indicators
Either way im not even trying to hate on f0rsaken he's a good player obviously but prx fans undervaluing and shitting on jingg for years is getting annoying cuz without him PRX would be way worse

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Cope

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t0t0_wolff

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Doesn't matter he'll always be my flex goat 🐐🐐 #f0resk1N_MY_GOAT

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this post conveniently happens to switch from rating to acs to elimination game stats when jj has a performance that doesnt fit the agenda LOL

why do ppl try to turn members of the same team against each other

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yeah because we totally have ratings for shanghai

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Rohaan

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This makes no sense. Jingg plays like 4 agents and makes him specialized. Forsaken has played every agent in the game. No one in their right mind would take jingg over forsaken

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F0rsaken isnt good at most of the agents that he plays
Most of the time he pads stats on these agents in regionals against feeder teams or just straight up plays terrible
If you compare f0rsaken comfort agent picks to other agents ull see that he's just a fake flex player who underperforms heavily

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Forsaken is only good on smokes and duelist sometimes

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Vgb

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I like this agenda, keep going.

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As a pure spectator, I prefer Jinggg over forsaken. Jinggg is simply more fun to watch