neon | VLR.gg

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Naur

what is your opinion on neon in game (not vct) to play against? it feels so much more oppressive than other duelist imo and i think if they want to reduce the util in the game hers should be toned down a little - similar case with waylay. my duo plays a ton of neon and it feels so jarring to watch this guy moving like no other agent can lol

i'd also be curious if anyone can think of a fair neon nerf that would tone her down a little and not just ruin the character, the best solution ive seen tbh is people suggest sentinels be re-buffed to be better

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she's honestly nowhere near as strong as people make her out to be imo, but yes they should buff sentinels instead of nerfing the strong duelists

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give me my kill trips, info flash back

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buff sentinels and the neon complainers will disappear

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she is a mistake and should not exist in the game of Valorant

At the very least she should get reworked, but its almost impossible to do that because the whole point of the character is running fast

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they need to go back to an older version of cypher

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Great design until they changed util for no reason now she makes no sense and seems like complete bs so just revert some of the util changes and you'll see less of her

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I think her alone is not opressing but her with the judge good+ good = broken.
Its genuinely frustrating to play against like why do work so hard on aim and shit when you can just do that

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nerf shotguns. Give Cypher his trip stuns back, slight buffs to Vyse and Kj (fuck Deadlock that bitchass grav-net has brim ult radius)

~~also give neon back the 2nd stun and let high gear deplete faster like it did back before the double slides buff-~~

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her character design is fundamentally not fit for a tac-fps. Nerfing will serve only as a temporary fix, since that opens up the possibility/necessity for buffs later which leads us back to the original problem. Imo neon needs a rework,no matter whether 1 or 100000 players are able to bring the best out of her as a character

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ppl crying cause she takes space a lil differently ............ all mouvement ability are "too powerfull" now ether u understand there always counters and neon dashing are actualy hard to hit bcs its hard to shoot mid dash ( shotgun are a diff thing cause they are a big nerf in a lot off situation but not close range " crazy that ppl are complainning about a gun sole purpose" ) should snti get a buff yes should neon also recieve a lil buff fs. she is still fking weak 1 dash u don't get kill or space with it ur a cs player

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I don't hate her and I don't think she was out of place like people try to pretend until after the util changes
People just hate having to think why else would reyna exist

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bro val player are playing a game based on util and complain util does stuff make it make sense. ~~~~

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Doesn't make sense to me either I never liked it as well

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you’re the first person to say that she should get a buff, interesting

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except someone like raze or jett or waylay cant stop mid dash/satchel to stun you and then slide in your face with a shotgun (or at least not without really bad movement inaccuracy). The worst part about neon is not even her slide, it's that her movement makes her way too hard to kill, especially because spraying in this game is not viable/leaves you vulnerable (like it is in most other tac-fps games). Her kit design(at least her ult and sprinting) does not fit in a tac-fps

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8 orb ult gets countered by (aim or teamplay) <= clearly not fit for a TACTICAL FPS.~~~~

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even the pros struggle with a running/ulting neon, but you will counter her in ranked with aim and teamplay... sure thing bro

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u can still 1 tap bro and from far away ur better of using a gun tbh. look at breeze bro

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and she can't even stop mid dash no she as to dash then do smt else like all other agent.

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except she can. Raze or jett when they are flying through the air can't just stop instantly, pull out their gun and be fully accurate, neon can just stop jumping and half a second later hit her slide and pull out her gun

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neon as crouch running accuracy in dash btw. ( not with sniper but all others u can't shoot precisly )

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still literally infinitely more accurate then raze satcheling in the air or jett and waylay, that cant even shoot while dashing

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yeah cause its the fking purpos off the ability its not a space taking ability did u try side sachels with raze ? same shit no one cries about it. when the sachels can do way more. ~~~~

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fym its not a space taking ability? It's literally the primary ability that facilitates the dive playstyle for neon, the same way satchels do for raze or the dash does for jett or waylay.

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ok explain better . u wanna open on raze / jett u chose a high spot and go to it its fast hard to shoot cause ur using 2 axis. now neon's dash doesn't cover much so you need to run first ( ur literaly knife out when u run iff someone peeks throught ur wall ur fucked. ~~~~

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except this is what I was saying earlier, she can strafe left and right so fast and stun you in half a second so unless you are playing with a shotgun or get a one tap you are dead whether by neon or some other teammates following up. Also the 2 axis thing is not always a factor for jett/raze since you dont always go on top of something, but even if you did do that, the speed of neon's strafes makes her just as hard to hit, if not harder

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there's a difference between pressing e to run around and pressing e and being in the right place so you can end up at the right place with your satchels

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sachels are harder to use but being good with neon is harder. mouvement aren't as fast i played both charater to a good level i assure u havving good sachel ( not having to look at the ground + real continuous mouvement ) is easier than neon matrix mooves

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Bronze ~~~~

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neon can press q mid run and send out a stun with no change to her speed iirc

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2/10 rage bait ur not that bad that u can't shoot a 7 sec combo bro

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Unless they specifically rebuff Cypher, she is going to continue to remain overly oppressive. People say buff all sentis but the only senti that can give Neon problems is cypher

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bro neon is still weak asf. u can't play her solo like a yoru or waylay or raze she has to be based on a double dive. like what are you all on about and again in ranked u won't complain if a raze rocket launcher fks u up they why would a laser be different ( rocket is better cause iff u try to team play u give raze multy kills) i think a lot off ppl are just goaking at dambi (deserved the guy is crazy) but don't see the real problem shotgun aren't balanced well.~~~~

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neon is more capable as a solo duelist than yoru and waylay

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? yoru can solo entry and as been played as solo quite a lot before the double meta rn he is still viable neon isn't. she doesn't get ez space like with dashes or tp's. its hard to explain for someone who doesn't play neon but try neon on abiss other tipe off big maps u can't entry. really. u get stunned too easily / sprayed down throught the wall

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he was viable as a solo entry in the tejo meta because he was the only duelist that brute force through tejos util with his tps and very strong at triggering vyse util on top of being able to set himself up in his ult which you can’t do anymore

now he struggles to entry into site as a solo duelist, there’s a reason why he’s played as a secondary and not as the main entry

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he was played as 2nd bcs ini are trash and he does ( 3 jobs duelist wich he can still do. site double anchor w the tp on the other side off the maps and on top of f that had 2 flashes that can line up / are close to kayo's (hard to dodge). like he needed a nerf to do a lil less now he isn't busted asf anymore jst good duelist.

btw bro i feel like you don't understand the game much so iff u make another comment that id judge braindead i won't answer im not that bored

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Neon might be the most viable solo duelist in the game right now, you are delusional

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u forgot arguments man

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Neon is the only agent with refreshable entry utility so she is the only duelist in the game that can entry at any point in the round which inherently makes her the best solo entry duelist. Not to mention her stun and wall make her quite self sufficient compared to Yoru (who has to entry blindly) or Waylay (who can’t actually capitalize off her own entries)

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in my ideal world
i would remove shotguns, lmgs, classic right click, neon and waylay from this game
don't care if i could play around it or play better
i wanna have fun in my videogame

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play neon its fun. ~~~~

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anyone who plays neon deserves to have their house robbed and sent to the streets

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? sry u got mogged by a neo bro. gota download aimlabs

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don't care if i could play around it or play better, i wanna have fun in my videogame

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bro good neon player are rare and idk your rank but higther than plat fun is gone forever. ~~~~

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that agent is not hard to play in ranked
it is just cancer
if you like her that's fine but i don't and thats the end of it

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Only reason it’s broke is because of shotguns and Odin

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odin is one of the few things that counters neon in the current meta

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way too oppressive, not fun to play against, bad design