Aspas&Zmijkk on Yoru

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A1pha1

We always wonder why they are not good at yoru when in theory they are the best suited for Yoru/2nd entry role.
Now every Yoru is 2nd one in rifle rounds, farming ecoes with marshal and outlaw, awping whenever they feel like it, either play fast rotate or aggro on defense.

If you just describe the yoru role in pro play it feels like its the definiton of Aspas and Zmijkks playstyle. But I think the reason why they struggle with it is they overthink too much with their util when they are on yoru. Usually they dont play heavy util or agents with flexible util like yoru, either they play "all in send" agents like Raze and Neon or agents with little no util like Jett and Chamber.

We didnt see it much but whenever we saw those 2 play yoru we saw them getting caught with util in hand a lot because they overthink too much.

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kangkang is a hard entry duelist, with the most FB taken in their champs 2024 run with his most successful agent being neon, he is clearly favouring hard entry not 2nd entry

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Yeah Zmijkks is a lot more aggro than Aspas, maybe Cryo is more suited for this example but "overthinking" part still is the most sensible explanation why they are not good at Yoru

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Then why is CB on neon and KK on chamber

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estonianhagi

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because they think valorant is played with stats lol. kangkang is not really a hard entry actually probably the opposite. hes a hard entry fragger thts it.

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did u like watch their champs run? did u watch how many opening duels he takes? literally everyone was talking about how good he was at just slide entrying and getting the first kill. it was the whole reason the kk-s1mon duo was so successful

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estonianhagi

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hard entry vs hard entry fragger hmmmmmmmmm. is tex a hard entry player then?

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GambleNats

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slide entrying

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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estonianhagi

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a meta where even aspas was on neon. forget pre neon meta. when was kangkang a hard entry player? give me a time.

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GambleNats

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basically his whole career except:

Santiago
East asia lcq
Champs 2022
When smoggy plays duelist in like 2023 mainly split
When kangkang was playing gekko/kayo/omen (even then his omen used to pseudo entry - but they played a contact style)

like what?

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estonianhagi

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im gonna actually get mad when people keep confusing hard entry vs hard entry fragger

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GambleNats

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ur just wrong bro, idk what to tell you. provide points in why kangkang is not a hard entry player

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#51

NerfMaxima

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so ur a retard

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foythvlr

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aspas plays neon comfortably since 23 mf wdym "even"

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estonianhagi

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yeah vs edg right. when they whipped out the neon it was a great performance by loud.

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foythvlr

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he was the best rated neon on both masters tokyo and americas league

say what you want about the result but he was playing pretty well already more than a year before the neon meta

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his entire career on duelist basically. look at the amount of first duelist he takes. if you dont wanna go through regionals then just look at his internationals

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estonianhagi

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https://www.vlr.gg/640297/aspas-zmijkk-on-yoru/#45

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Koreymi

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Have you considered watching edg yet?

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NerfMaxima

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on NRG's run in santiago this has to be ragebait

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GambleNats

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The op

gets so bad sometimes they have kk oping on neon and cb playing rifle on yoru lol

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00t0mn

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estonianhagi

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you can't play the operator in this meta. you are gambling when you play operator because 50% of the time you're on the wrong bomb site retaking with an operator.

#5

abcdshsh

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literally the best meta to op with initiator util dead

scopemaxxing is why furia made it

#8

estonianhagi

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ummm absolutely not. thats why furia is OUT lol

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abcdshsh

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VCT Ameicas Kickoff '26 : 22.76 ops per match

VCT Champions '25: 10.38 ops per match

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estonianhagi

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source?

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abcdshsh

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rib.gg

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estonianhagi

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can u link the exact page i cant find it

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abcdshsh

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just go to vct americas kickoff 26 on rib.gg go to stats page and it should be on the bottom its doesnt give you the ops per match, just the amount of ops bought then u can divide by total matches

https://www.rib.gg/events/vct-2026-americas-kickoff/analytics/6242

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estonianhagi

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why kickoffs lol. do it compared to masters bangkok and masters santiago and if u want to be even more specific top 4 teams in madrid right now compared to bangkok top 4 teams

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because kickoffs are after the big initiator change and champs was before that change and not san tiago because it hasnt concluded

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#16

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nah it's cause they cant win pistols and close out rounds

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estonianhagi

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not because he missed the shot and has to retake(called to save because they cant):
https://youtu.be/nFCE8az8CTw?t=948

not because he has to retake again and fails to do so:
https://youtu.be/nFCE8az8CTw?t=1143

great value from him but his teammates just kind of didnt shoot back still lost the retake:
https://youtu.be/nFCE8az8CTw?t=1647

so now its 0-3 with retakes ok. so what value are you talking about. they lost 3 rounds more than pistols so whats going on?(0-6 because they eco'ed the rounds after so tell me 6 rounds vs 2?)

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estonianhagi

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uh so thoughts sir? 😭

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shlak123

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alr mb king yk it all ✌️

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😭

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catNmouse

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check furias win rate for pistols in kickoff and santiago rq

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What

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estonianhagi

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2 duelists running at ur head. u miss op shot you tp out. retake with operator good luck buddy. only the outlaw is good vs slow teams thats it.

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the operator being prevalent is like the only reason lovers rock has a job lol

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estonianhagi

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and thats why lovers rock is going home. how well did the operator do vs G2? it only works against initator heavy slow teams but when u have somethingg and jingg at ur neck or dambi in ur throat good luck hitting the shot.

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Marii

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The only rounds he had impact vs G2 was with the OP they just went 0-4 on pistol rounds

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greatest ragebaiter or dumbest vlr user

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jawn

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before DRX waylay/yoru everybody played the yoru as a solo duelist last year, the playstyle was significantly different which is why they didn't really pick it up, i imagine aspas is going to pick it up in stage 1 all things considered

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sw4gman

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low iq players

#35

foythvlr

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aspas isnt a 2nd entry yall just heard this once and decided to run with it

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Marii

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What is he

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foythvlr

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hes a heavy entry and one of the best itw at the role

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Marii

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Not really, majority of his first kills come from defense and even then this kickoff Zekken still had more playing omen and Astra some maps

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foythvlr

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Zekken was taking FK as omen on abyss cause he was playing heavy mid and everyone plays retake on A. FK dont mean anything without further context

aspas gets more FK on def for operator value but historically he has high FK on attack too. On every single game on champs 25 he had more TR FK than any duelist he played against

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Champs 25 is how he SHOULD always play (maybe not the fragging but the entrying) if you compare it with champs 24 there is a very clear difference

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foythvlr

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The thing is that he always played like this and 24 is the outliar (even then his entry numbers arent that bad)