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#1
senflixzy

why does everyone hate starxo so much? like i get it he talks shit and stuff

but when BBL does it its normal and people are being soft? why is the hate selective?

I personally like starxo he seems really passionate and im happy hes making a comeback to the scene (honestly i fw gentle mates in general)

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forklift2
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i like starxo bruh

#3
pixh
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because he can't back it up

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foythvlr
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BBL players have an ego because they are fucking good while starxo has an ego because he won a stolen champions 5 years ago being carried by cneds ass and is being carried by marteen rn

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senflixzy
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this gotta be bait
starxo had a good tournament especially for being an IGL stats wise
also yeah he has marteen but hes been consistently putting up insane numbers but that doesnt mean starxo is bad

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foythvlr
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Starxo is bad tho

#32
Yistyy
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actually bonecold was igl not starxo

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catNmouse
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starxo is better than rose 💯

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foythvlr
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Prob but then besides Marteen Starxo has like Minny (Inconsistency King) Glyph (Boaster Shooting) and Bipo (Even worse than him) while Rose has the entire BBL to back him up

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Manaphy
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I'm sure you don't realistically believe an IGL should play better than a player many had as the best player coming into this tournament.

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foythvlr
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"I Like Waffles" situation right here

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except you're knocking him for being carried by a player who is supposed to be set up to carry him. Why would starxo as an initiator player not maximize the elite players he plays with to better win games.

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Marteen going beast mode and dropping 100k+ b2b two days in a row isnt Starxo setting him up bro is him being insane. When he isnt doing that M8 looks mid and gets eliminated by a chinese team

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Setting up isn't only throwing util to get kills. While some of the time he does set him up to get kills some of the time like the ag game today there are multiple times where he uses utility just to get him an orb or get him on a favorable angle. He undoubtably sets him up to get him into the best possible position to win rounds as he should being he is the igl and initiator. The idea of setting up a star player to maximize their play exist in every sport/esport, so I don't know why it suddenly doesn't matter when starxo does it.

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foythvlr
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Hes being outcalled and outaimed by a chinese guy whos playing raze bro 😭😭😭 Nice job setting marteen up you still botfragged and lost the match

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He didn't botfrag a single map in the ag game.

#29
foythvlr
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9/17 76ADR on the decider map btw with 1 assist and 48% KAST (prob setting marteen up right)

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He's playing fade gang. Shrimp had 2 assist with 98 adr despite his team getting significantly more kilss than M8's. Also glyph went 4/15.

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Fluxcicide
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He won a game 5 fucking years ago and you still have that in mind is crazy work

#25
foythvlr
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What is that supposed to mean

#5
OkOkay
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Its cause he got eliminated, its easier to hate him. BBL cant get full hate cause theyre still in it. When BBL do get eliminated, they are gonna have it way worse

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SENyourmom
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honestly i just love the (over)confidence even if said player isn't backing it up with their performance. Toxicity is part of it, and makes the match even more exiting. Starxo isnt the only one that acts like this and the thing is he isnt even bad, remember he is igl too.

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Because despite what people say they like (Shittalk, passion, etc.) they like specific players and when other players do that thing they respond in a hostile manner because they inherently don't like that player regardless of whether there is no difference between said actions. The NBA community has this problem when comparing players from the past vs today.

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indicrow
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shooting bodies constantly mid round sometimes even in situations where it could negatively impact the rest of the round makes you seem like crash out loser instead of someone who is just overconfident and sometimes cocky

#12
Weluz99
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I genuinely think people just hate the way he looks

#13
forklift2
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ong. like people wont say this is why but passively it is the reason why for them.

#23
senflixzy
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honestly as stupid as it may sound ur absolutely right, have heard many people hating on rose for the same reason

#18
aiber
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bbl does it and theyre villains but if starxo does it hes a criminal what in the double standards 😭😭😭
demon1 we need you at masters bro

#21
OkOkay
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its not abt double standards. its how esports work. if u trash talk and lose = big hate. if u trashtalk and win = people defending and less hate. today, starxo lost and bbl won, its simple. When demon1 lost masters to fnatic he got sooo much hate, but when he won champs, there was way leas hate.

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tua
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well there shouldnt be hate in the first place <3

:D

#28
Nilonesia
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that photo of him standing on the table deleted 90% of haters icl

#30
ipppppi
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Remember acend? There will always be a trail of ppl who follows (hatred included)

#31
Wingull
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because everyone loves when their heros talk shit and hate when anyone else does it

personally i think the amount of shit talking in the scene right now is perfect, the only reason i don't entirely like the bbl guys is because i think they cross the line between shit talk/banter and actually toxicity but that's my own personal judgement

#33
senflixzy
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Yeah, I definitely agree, like Starxo talks but in the post-match interview and stuff, he is relatively humble and not down talking AG and taking responsibility for his loss

For the BBL guys, it feels like they genuinely just dont respect anybody, but you could also see that from the POV that they just display themselves like that because they are so passionate

but in my personal opinion i feel they cross the line and genuinely are toxic, like in the NRG post match they dont credit NRG for anything but rather just say they were basic and not good but they just played worse

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