twice now that hes been kicked for yosemite yet each time he ends up better for it. hes one of the most decorated players in china but the gms seem to think its a fluke and yosemite shoots better. when will lysoar get the respect he deserves??
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the only serious argument against lysoar is that he ghosts internationals every single time
yosemite is literally the 2nd lowest rated player at the last international he attended.
lysoar has been mediocre to bad in 5 events over the years which seems to indicate that it is not something he can change
Yosemite on the other hand has only made 2, and hasn't made on in a minute, which leaves room for us to argue that he could have gotten better in those internationals, but because he hasn't made any yet we just can't tell
gang you need to make the internationals to be able to prove that. and its not like you can say lysoar is carried when yosemite is quite literally his replacement on multiple of his previous teams. i get what your trying to say but its just not the case yosemite is the same player he was 2 years ago its why blg dropped him
I don't understand your 2nd point (what is this supposed to answer to?) and your first point doesn't make sense in this context
my 2nd point was just pre shutting down any argument about whether or not lysoar is impactful in making the internationals or if its a fluke. how in this context does saying "lysoar is better because he performs regionally and makes internationals meanwhile yosemite doesnt" not make sense?
Every team yosemite joined to replace lysoar was vastly different. not a fair comparison.
25 FPX
- Life forgot to shoot
- Triple Controller (what made the team good, wasnt good anymore)
- BerLIN took a break
- Autumn who doesnt speak fluent mandarin, IGL'd while Yosemite Co-Igl'd (still the highest fragger on the team alongside AAAAY)
- FPX is still shit after yosemite left
26 WOL
- You kept 2/5 players
thats not even a core
yosemite has done well in the few internationals he has made, lysoar quite literally is always mediocre or just bad
how was his champs 24 performance good? i ageee lysoar at intl havent been great but hes consistently been getting better and is making the intl to be able to improve
thats the thing tho, its been 3 years, and lysoar hasnt improved internationally. maybe its finally the time to do it, but thats what is said the time before, and the time before, and the time before.
Yosemite wasnt good in 2024 but he was easily the best player of FPX in 25, BLG in 24 and BLG in 23 (you can put whzy in contention with 23 BLG). And the entire of BLG was shit in 2024 so yosemite doing bad isnt a shocker, compare that to Lysoar in FPX or WOL, where every member on his team was just better when they got to internationals.
Lysoar wasnt even that good domestically for FPX, AAAAY, Autumn and life arguably did way better than he did, he was very good domestically for WOL.
forever underrated goat
maybe one day I will forgive his actions on lotus vs prx
Lysoar domestically is very good. We all know that. It just depends on his international performance
TMV had it right about the goat
LYSOOOOOOOAR IS MAGIC, HE WEARS A MAGIC HAT
COULD'VE STAYED ON FPX BUT HE SAID NO FUCK THAT
HE SHOOTS THEM WITH HIS VANDAL, HE NEVER LOSES FIGHTS
AND WHEN WE WIN IN PARIS SHANGHAI, WE'LLSING THIS SONG ALL NIIIIIIIGHT
I need to see him perform internationally man, but he’s undoubtedly better than yosemite
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