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is americas not that competitive

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#1
delighted

people were saying they were the best region btw

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Asto3
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im not falling for this ragebait

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delighted
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same top teams

same top 4

same results, champs merchants at it again

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n0sey
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What are saying bro, everyone knows that Furia (2023 M80) is going to win it all

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Asto3
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same top teams

https://www.vlr.gg/596407/furia-vs-g2-esports-vct-2026-americas-kickoff-ur3

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delighted
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watch jawgemo somehow get his consistency back and 2-0 furia

upper bracket semis guarantees u top 6 lmao

#12
Asto3
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this game is 80–20 for g2, but you never really know. i still think theres a chance they dont make it to santiago, americas isnt predictable this year

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delighted
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bro said isn't predictable

#15
Asto3
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nrg is the only team guaranteed in santiago

#18
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guaranteed

G2 still won vs 100T with jaw underperforming

#20
Asto3
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timotino also played bad and hes still a win condition for 100t, them almost beating g2 is a positive sign, if g2 drops to the middle bracket their spot in santiago isnt guaranteed

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delighted
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LEV with neon are in the lower bracket bro

#4
WhzyGlazer420
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china best region

#5
delighted
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has to be either pacific/CN/emea

#6
brams6663
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americas isn't the most competitive region but americas' top 4 clears every other region's top 4

#7
shrike-
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competitive =/= good

a region can be "competitive" but still perform worse when pitted against other regions

i.e emea

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delighted
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good point but honestly EMEA teams have nothing to lose bc they can gain international event experience as well

so overall they are improving as a region but it's not that drastic

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EMEA teams have nothing to lose bc they can gain international event experience as well

what does this even mean? all other regions looks to gain international experience as well and improve the same way, it's just that for the past few years they've been unable to close it out whereas other regions have

if anything their performance has shown a significant decline due to only one team being a real contender for trophies

#46
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slowly but surely they might be a threat internationally since almost all of the teams will have international experience under their belts

#48
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yeah maybe sometime in the distant future, right now they're just sonned by every other region lul

#14
cirruss
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i think some teams just need experience (and also the fact that two teams have subs), also kickoff is never the best tell for how good the region is. we'll see in stage 1

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delighted
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if stage 1 still has G2 MIBR and NRG going to london surely it's over for the region

#26
cirruss
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tbh i think the rest of the playoffs and swiss results will be more telling, i think a team like g2 and nrg will peak too early into the year and we might see two other teams make it to champs

#30
delighted
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we said this last year and they still peaked

#27
toidinami
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Right.... continued dominance means bad, but with emea its not the top teams falling off its just the rest of the region getting better right?

#29
delighted
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yeah

#32
Asto3
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in emea’s case, everyone’s bad

#33
delighted
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VIT
NAVI
M8

#36
StalwartTiger_35
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blud put M8, a team with filu, and a team that nearly lost to k0cks as a sub

#37
Asto3
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m8 sneak

#59
Lyxium
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God forbid a region having other teams that are actually competitive

#67
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unfortunately the strength level of your region compared to americas and pacific is lower, competitiveness doesnt always mean quality if the competition is leveled by the low quality of the teams

#17
TM06Nick
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its just the top 3 teams and everyone else

#19
delighted
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literally

#22
Asto3
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mibr and g2 arent guaranteed top 3 bro…

#25
Ronyko23
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Top 3 regionaly. G2 is def not winning santiago.

mibr got the best chance. NRG is our best team. But b2b int trophy with champs curse is almost impossible.

#35
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sorry but i dont think the curse will hit nrg. obviously we havent seen them against a strong team yet but i dont see signs of them dropping off anytime soon

and g2 will never win an international title with babybay on the roster

#42
delighted
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babybay is cracked mechanically but my goodness leaf is a ghost when it comes to internationals

#51
Asto3
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any other babybay agent is mid tier except chamber

#62
delighted
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keep him in chamber then isn't it meta rn

#69
Asto3
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not even cryo locks chamber on every map...

#71
delighted
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😭😭😭😭😭✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️

#55
toidinami
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I honestly thought he was washed mechanically. Like vibes merchant plus brain type player

#64
Asto3
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he’s a bit washed mechanically but i think he has good gamesense, i don’t know how he manages to carry g2 sometimes

#47
Ronyko23
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Even edg was good after champs. Top 3 champs after beating both finalist.

Winning trophy b2b is Rare. I can see nrg making top 4. But its a failure for champs winning team.

EDG benched s1mon after top 3. Nrg def gonna find scapegoat.

#53
Asto3
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i don’t think that narrative is gonna happen with nrg, but ok.
i don’t see bonkar or anyone on the team trying to blame anyone.

#70
Ronyko23
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Def less pressure on NRG.Even fanbase isn't toxic.

Nothing like edg prx sen.

#34
StalwartTiger_35
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the real question is do the players on team secret ever queue competitive?

#43
delighted
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W goalpost moving I like that shit pls do more of that

#52
StalwartTiger_35
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that shit

team secret reference?

#54
delighted
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I like goalpost moving

#56
StalwartTiger_35
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funny how you say that when you only reply to my joke message not the one where i fried you

#60
delighted
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I don't know where it is too many people are replying all at once

#61
StalwartTiger_35
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I like goalpost moving

#63
delighted
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o ok ty

and also idc if TS are "shit" I am not supporting fucking s0n over them

#74
StalwartTiger_35
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nobody should be forced to support s0n

#65
toidinami
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Poor guy is getting ganged up on. I agree with you though delighted. People did say NA would be more competitive. Outside of the top 3 though. Everyone still knew those would be the top 3. The only team that we thought might make it was lev. Where we disagree is that means the region is worse.

#66
delighted
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understandable ty for that

#68
toidinami
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Omg a guy who can understand multiple viewpoints. I am now your biggest fan and will support you for the foreseeable future

#72
delighted
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ty for that but I feel like u should pay attention to users like cloudberry, kaust, geospliced, and butterflyeffect23, they often engage in discussions like this more often

#38
BerLINglazer
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ameowricas

#40
Monsteiur
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“Same top 4 team” just say you are [REDACTED]

#45
delighted
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nah watch sen kick kaplan after kickoff and steal warbirds from rrq

#49
Monsteiur
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Good for them?

#50
delighted
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warbirds is a VERY good coach watch sen get 1st in Americas once they kick kaplan

#57
Monsteiur
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Tactically, he is but he isn’t really good at the mental side. (No problem for sen tho since they got a new mental coach or something like that)

#58
delighted
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who is their mental coach I didn't know they already had one

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