They nerfed my boy into the floor man hes unplayable now, i miss having setups that made the other team mald everytime they enter his trips are just gone now
He went from S tier Agent to one of the worst in the game, Buff my boy back to his pre nerf state PLEASE
no we wanna see chamber sage veto and KJ not the same boring and cringe agent that requires 0 aim that you fit into every comp when u don't know what should your 5th agent be
He wasnt event that dominant in pro play because all of the setups got anti strated, im talking from more of a ranked perspective
he was excessively dominant in pro-play because his pickrate was too high compared to how good he actually was up until everyone started getting on the vyse train. He wasn't that good but the nerfs finally made people realize that. I don't want cypher to receive any change before the end of the season
we could’ve had 3 teams win an international trophy in 2025 without playing cypher
his pickrate was too high compared to how good he actually was
up until everyone started getting on the vyse train
that doesn't contradict any of my points. Cypher was ass, but it was still being played too much (especially in 24). We good without him for a while
oh no i agree with you, im just saying that 2/3 teams that won an international trophy in 2025 played little to no cypher during their trophy run
3/3 no? PRX play 0 cypher (D4v4i is bad at it anyway), T1 played mostly no senti and KJ and NRG played vyse or no senti too I'm pretty sure.
I might be wrong on T1 tho,
yeah they were playing cypher on lotus and Haven
HIs pickrate was high because of the map rotations and because of how shit chamber was, His value also played a part but wasnt the only reason
mfrs were forcing it on lotus and bind not so long ago, it wasn't a map pool thing but just teams playing it for bad reasons
Bind is cyphers best map and he works exceptionally well on Lotus if you know what youre doing, his only bad map is probably ice box hence forth seeing Kj or Vyse there
Bind is cyphers best map
ok yeah stop it bro you're exposing yourself
same with lotus, he's historically mediocre on it because his stopping power is mediocre and it doesn't do shit.
Are we deadass?? Just say youve never played cypher and wrap it up bro he is still playable AND good on bind even after the nerfs
look at his NMW on bind, it's dogshit, it gets info too late, it's not fit for anchoring. Even prime GenG couldn't do shit on bind with Cypher. The best comp is no senti by far. There's a reason absolutely everyone besides DRG stopped playing Cypher on bind
Yes because its pro play? no good team is gonna run it down on a site when theres a cypher present and he wasnt played on Bind because of how dominant viper is that most teams dont even run a sentinel
Cypher is Free Elo on bind
As a cypher main I'm not mad at what they did to his trips as they were a little annoying to play against but I think that making it so his camera doesn't go invisible anymore was just a pointless change.
i was a cypher main and i was mad as fuck because as soon as you get out of piss low elo its so hard to actually be a server admin on cypher because players know the common trip spots and the util usage is good too, you have to be exceptionally good on cypher to make it work in high elo or pro play
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