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Americas upper meta impression

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#1
foythvlr

Update on: https://www.vlr.gg/post/6026704/4-games-first-impression-meta with the top seeded teams before EMEA and APAC starts

Maps played: Haven, Abyss (4), Corrode (3), Bind (3), Pearl (3), Breeze (3), Split (3)

Haven:
Yoru - Sova - Viper - Omen - Killjoy:
LOUD X C9, LOUD L

Neon - Sova - Viper - Omen - Killjoy:
LOUD X C9, C9 W

Abyss:
Yoru - Sova - Astra - Harbor - Chamber:
LOUD X C9, LOUD L

Waylay - Sova - Breach - Astra - Veto:
LOUD X C9, C9 W

Yoru - Sova - Breach - Astra - Veto:
EG VS ENVY, EG W

Yoru - Sova - Iso - Omen - Viper:
EG VS ENVY, ENVY L
MIBR VS ENVY, ENVY L

Waylay - Sova - Tejo - Omen - Astra:
KRU VS FURIA, FURIA W

Yoru - Sova - Kayo - Omen - Chamber:
KRU VS FURIA, Kru throaway comp, L

Jett - Sova - Kayo - Astra - Cypher:
MIBR VS ENVY, MIBR W

Corrode:
Waylay - Yoru - Fade - Omen - Viper:
EG X ENVY, ENVY W
MIBR X ENVY, ENVY L

Waylay - Yoru - Sova - Omen - Viper:
EG X ENVY, EG L

Waylay - Sova - Kayo - Omen - Viper:
MIBR X ENVY, MIBR W

Yoru - Tejo - Fade - Omen - Viper
100T X G2, G2 L

Waylay - Fade - Sage - Omen - Veto
100T X G2, 100T W

Bind:
Yoru - Waylay - Skye - Brimstone - Viper:
EG X ENVY, ENVY W

Yoru - Waylay - Fade - Brimstone - Viper:
EG X ENVY, EG L
100T VS LEV, LEV L

Waylay - Skye - Chamber - Brimstone - Viper:
100T VS LEV, 100T W
100T VS G2, 100T L
100T VS G2, G2 W

Pearl:
Neon - Yoru - Fade - Astra - Killjoy:
KRU VS FURIA, Kru throaway comp, W

Neon - Fade - Kayo - Astra - Chamber:
KRU VS FURIA, FURIA L

Waylay - Fade - Kayo - Astra - Chamber:
100T VS LEV, 100T L

Waylay - Tejo - Kayo - Astra - Chamber:
100T VS LEV, LEV W
NRG VS C9, C9 L

Waylay - Sova - Tejo - Astra - Killjoy:
NRG VS C9, NRG W

Breeze:
Jett - Sova - Kayo - Viper - Chamber:
KRU VS FURIA, Kru throwaway comp, L

Yoru - Jett - Sova - Viper - Astra:
KRU VS FURIA, FURIA W
SEN VS FURIA, FURIA W

Neon - Yoru - Skye - Viper - Astra:
SEN VS FURIA, SEN L

Split:
Waylay - Skye - Sage - Omen - Viper:
100T VS LEV, 100T W
100T VS G2, 100T L

Waylay - Yoru - Fade - Omen - Viper:
100T VS LEV, LEV L
SEN VS FURIA, FURIA W

Waylay - Yoru - Tejo - Omen - Viper:
SEN VS FURIA, SEN L

Waylay - Fade - Breach - Omen - Viper:
100T VS G2, G2 W

New insights:

  • Everyone hates Haven lol
  • MIBR is probably using default for comfort
  • ENVY iso comp is 0-2
  • No new info for Abyss
  • First mirror comp on G2 vs 100t Bind, which seems like the possible meta comp: Waylay - Skye - Chamber - Brimstone - Viper; Astra Bind truthers in SHAMBLES until EMEA starts
  • Split meta: Waylay + Omen + Viper + Skye/Fade + Random agent (Yoru/Breach/Sage till now)
  • Breeze is double smokes Viper-Astra and possibly double duelist too, Sova is probably still a must
  • Pearl meta is likely Waylay - Sova - Tejo/Kayo - Astra - Killjoy - Chamber but some teams might run no scan with Tejo - Kayo
  • Corrode is Waylay - Fade/Sova - Kayo/Yoru - Omen - Viper but 100t ran Sage and Veto and won so it might become a thing now (do not believe G2 tejo propaganda)
  • Waylay is THE duelist rn and appears solo on every map besides Breeze and Haven (Until now)
#2
shaq_attaqr
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just nerf waylay saturate and yoru tp and we're good on agents, maybe buff initiators a little

#3
foythvlr
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Yeah but sentinels need a buff

#4
fasp
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envy abyss comp is so buns on attack

#5
SIXSEVEN67
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they will bounce back trust

#10
fasp
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they should just put keznit on jett

#12
foythvlr
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yeah idk why they are playing iso. just play waylay. yoru dive is not good

#16
catNmouse
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& put inspire on veto he’s getting no value on the viper

#17
foythvlr
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i think viper can have value on abyss, its more a inspire problem but it can be fixed

#18
fasp
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i honestly think they should just go for full firepower on their abyss comp with inspire on chamber and keznit on jett/waylay, but im honestly not a fan of keznit's waylay

#21
foythvlr
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honestly think it would be better to put inspire on cypher and keznit on chamber if they do that

#6
sh1lll
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good analysis im ngl i always wanted waylay to be played more but now i regret wanting it. and this is coming from a timotino fan like its js so boring the same dash slow util dump bs

#8
Asto3
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it’s probably gonna be riot’s next nerf, i just don’t really know what they could nerf on that agent without killing him completely

#9
sh1lll
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idk its so like fast paced where u cna use all the util in half a sec and then ur useless for the round but the util has too much impact, im guessing heavy nerf on the saturate (slow) 100%

#11
Asto3
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fr the slow really needs a nerf

#13
foythvlr
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nerf movement and gun delay post saturate and shes already fixed

#14
foythvlr
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honestly i fw it probably will be too much in a while but i like the set plays and execs just the bucky thing that its being too much

#7
Asto3
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envy needs to start trolling less with these comps of theirs fr

#15
foythvlr
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its rough cause its their thing and they will not let go of yoru but they could be doing better comps

#19
twigster001
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can you do another one without including kaplan bin laden's throw comps on both map one and two vs furia

#20
foythvlr
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i was thinking about commenting about it cause both kaplama bin laden and netanyonur used no scan on sen and lev games but they had different results so i just put them

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