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https://x.com/icyJL/status/1989498963230429591

Like Icy's point has some substance but like whilst obviously we aren't ever gonna see everything about player, I don't think that means we can't/shouldn't critique players (even if not constructive) since we will really just never know what they do outside the game. Like it sucks if you impact is less tangible but people are gonna judge your quality of play for better or worse, even boaster who inarguably the goat igl gets judged due to how badly he performs individually like expecting to not recieve some hatred in the entertainment industry is foolish.

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StalwartTiger_35
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If people see you play bad, they'll call you bad. Not sure which part of that he isn't registering

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Asto3
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this icy bum should focus on improving instead of crying and making excuses, he's been trash for 2 years and got kicked from both his teams because he's the worst duelist in the americas.

but of course, here he goes crying on twitter and people will start babying him and commenting about ''how people don't understand his in-game impact'' and blah blah blah

go to tier 2, bum ass mf

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EnderTha1
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sen fan thats on icy dick 😭🙏 jesus bro focus on your own shitty team your duelist is washed up

#26
Asto3
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i got the sen flair cuz my goat is cortezia, i root for mibr, my duelist is aspas.

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EnderTha1
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i feel bad for cortezia

#32
Asto3
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i feel bad for eg too

#33
EnderTha1
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do you think dgzin will be good

#34
Asto3
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i think he’s probably one of the players with the biggest hunger to succeed, i felt like the loud kick hit him hard but he turned it into something positive somehow and came back stronger and even better, he’s been taking english classes since he got kicked, he literally managed to carry a team with raafa and kon4n to top 4 in ascension and they wouldn’t even have qualified to ascension if it weren’t for him

in my opinion he’s the third best brazilian duelist, only behind aspas and sato, and the gap between sato and dgzin isn’t even that big...

#28
tv0rusluke
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Ender i represent all of us when i say, we are with you through this tough time ❤️
icy will be on a team soon

#30
EnderTha1
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thanks man 🙏

#4
Biggest100TFAN
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He needs to learn from Asuna and ignore the haters

#15
zekken_on_adderall
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not everybody has the luxury to have dirt on the ceo of the org you are signed to.

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He was good at times, but not as good most the times. That's just it. Shouldn't ever get offended by what strangers say honestly. If he did his best, he did his best. Prove and show by action. Maybe he just got unlucky with the timing of showing his potential, but who cares. EG is always shit Tier 2 budget roster anyways.

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https://x.com/madithx/status/1989508259775222213 apparently hes got beef with people... any guesses?

#7
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probably mid v mid tbh

#8
catNmouse
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potter

#12
monkeyman17
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i mean he shouldnt have a problem with her considering his bum ahh would have been playing for burger boyz last year if it wasnt for her

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DrudaL
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def y0y

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monkeyman17
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seems possible. yay has had some drama before lol

#20
SudokuDude
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This is more proof that pro players gotta stop dating social media chicks. Look at their behavior.

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https://x.com/icyJL/status/1989483306149351862

Silentzz's girlfriend hating on icy when her boyfriend lost to icy twice this very year 😭

https://www.vlr.gg/509803/evil-geniuses-vs-2game-esports-vct-2025-americas-stage-2-w1
https://www.vlr.gg/459521/2game-esports-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w1

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monkeyman17
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LMAO

#14
monkeyman17
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i wish the players would talk shit to each other, but at least we can rely on their gfs to do it for them

#16
glittering_yard
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player's gfs crashing out are one of the best parts of the offseason

#17
gutterslugs
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LMAOOO

#21
SudokuDude
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It's Riot they won't let that shit happen 😂

#19
SleepingSnorlax
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Lol

#18
Manaphy
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The main problem is people will say "we should be able to criticize players" and their criticism is that the player is trash and deserves to lose their job and there is no actual substance about what they're doing wrong. When people say criticize what they mean is they want to anonymously shit on a player and not receive close to the level of hate that the player would simply by playing the game

#22
monkeyman17
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I think calling a player trash is not that bad, but it better be on vlr or in person and not like on twitter under players posts and shit

#23
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I'm fine with people calling a player bad or trash, but when they say that and a player defends themselves and people call them soft and say "why can't we criticize them" with no actual substance to their argument that's when it feels brainless to me.

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monkeyman17
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agree, although its probably best for players just to ignore it

#27
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Imo I think it's best for players to just ignore their haters since its the opinion of teammates/coaches that matter but even if you can't at least manage that I don't think it's at all realistic to expect people won't hate on you (even chron/aspas get hate). Most of the hate here is braindead baiting but when we aren't baiting then its because a player is legitimately playing awfully, even if the criticism is not "helping", it is still true and valid it's not our job to help players improve anways.

As a player regardless of whatever value you may think you have, you need to have some awareness of why people are hating on you. Like do you think people hate net because he's a terrible person? no, no one cares to know about him beyond his play and people's assessment is negative because he doesn't perform well. Like being hated on sucks and hurts but it is only natural for people to have those thoughts. I am not going to be thinking about how kind Icy is as a person when I see him go double negative, I am going to be thinking "wow he's playing like ass".

Sports isn't just something you consume but also something you discuss with others and naturally you are going to share your opinions including the negatives ones.

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sh1lll
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yea exactly hes lowokey jsut fueling the fire by adressing it

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