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New harbor

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#1
Easily_baited_12yo

Still have no clue why the wall slows teammates but whatever. Doesn't seem like anything crazy in my opinion. His old ult was better they should have just made the concuss area bigger and a faster windup. Viper is still a better waller and omes two smokes + paranoia can't be replaced. I was excited when I saw he finaly has his own smoke to place but it's only one charge on a 40 second cooldown. It's not bad but I think viper+omen combo is still better.

#2
themaniel
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there is no shot the wall still slows teammates

omfg

#8
Easily_baited_12yo
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It says in the ability description that it slows down everyone. Unless I missread it.

#10
Effluxi
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It does but this doesn't shock me. They want it to slow but they don't want any slow effect to be one-sided. Only workaround would be to make it a different debuff.

Regardless there's one charge of it and no Cascade so there's still gonna be way less slow. Should be easier to just use new Cove instead on whichever angles you may actually want to push.

#11
Slingz_val
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I heard that the ULT also slowes teammates (I can be wrong but I bet )

#3
frappzlul
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does the ult paranoia enemeis within it?

#4
MrBlooBloom
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yes I think so, but the water grenade shit does as well

#5
CJYman
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the cascade is the ult btw

#7
MrBlooBloom
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looked at the other teaser mb

#6
Easily_baited_12yo
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It looks like it does. The ult is actually not as bad tho, very good for scaling but still not sure what debuff it gives.

#9
Slingz_val
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It's still mid tbh for rank and solo for Pro Play? He might be better than a couple of agents now

#13
Easily_baited_12yo
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They nerfed viper to try and make harbors rework more viable but viper is still better at holding sites and her smoke is also just better. If they gave harbor the ability to put down his walls and smokes like viper and give him an ability to replenish it like viper can it would have been way better.

#18
frnnnki
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Decay is simply the better debuff than slow (and slowing allies is even crazier) + an actual molly not a stun

#19
Easily_baited_12yo
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Not to mention her ability to continuosly put her wall up and down during the round unlike harbors wall that you can just bait out and put on a cooldown makes her a better pick still.

#12
nutab1e
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killed his unique playstyle and he's still underpowered, lovely

#14
Easily_baited_12yo
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They will probably just nerf viper even further, I don't see him getting picked on anything but abyss.

#15
EseemedRes1180
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Can we stop being doomer for a second and actually think about it. He's an viper omen hybrid. Hes for sure going to be played a lot in pro play. The wall can cut line of site good for entry with his C and his smokes are good. Only thing is how long do these smokes last and the hardened state does the smoke disappear if u break it

#17
Easily_baited_12yo
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Jack of all trades, master of none. Vipers walls are better, her ult is still OP, omen has two smokes and his paranoia is still the best blind in the game. His TP also gives his kit versatility.

#16
TDQ1
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yeah i still think theres no situation where hes better than a viper at walling or omen at the rest of his kit

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