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Minimalist

Bombed their roster
-trexx
-pati
-keiko (insane work)

out of everyone kamo looks the likely one to stay together with nats.

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source?
why would they keep kamo lmfao

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Trexx and pati confirmed by a coach thats streaming. And keiko thru a spreadsheet and he has a contract that ends this year and they still didnt extend him besides that hes rumoured to go to TH.

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Congo1

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What coach? Lohan or yaotzin or some rando?

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goked

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And why would he say that publicly? Is there a clip for that?

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i didnt clip it neither didnt i understand him completely but he is making them as options in the market which means they got dropped

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Is this elbarco stream or why he doing spreadsheets

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i dont know what hes doing all i know is hes speaking about the market and what options there are and making rosters. And knowing hes a coach in the league hes trustable.

Also elbarco stream later and they said they will speak about every team.

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Congo1

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Amazing. I am so reqdy for offseason

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i was honestly bored until now thinking nothing is happening but today delivered holy and so on next week will be banger

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Wannabe coach

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source?

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With MIBR nuking their roster. Shits aint surprising.

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they gonna get Miniboo easily

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OldIGN

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navi probably will

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Congo1

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Keiko is out of contract. Maybe he decided to join vitality or something.

Derke
Less
Jampii
Keiko
sayonara

Would probably be the best roster since FNC 2023

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Profek is a more complete controller tho better util and wider agent pool in smokes

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True, but keiko is a top 10 player in the world when he is on

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wehn he is not on tho the team really crumbles like vs DRX or EDG (nats was on tho )
also sayo would be the 2nd duelist so with 3 duelist there will e alot of role clashes and i dont want to see jamppi on fill agents

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His stats were top tier vs DRX in both games. He tilted vs EDG

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still doesnt help with the fact that role issues will happen

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keiko makes alot of sense since hes friends with jamppi and sayonara this would actually be a perfect team

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i mean are we forgetting 2024 Team Heretics?

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that team isnt close individually. 2 vs 4 world class players.

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keiko isnt proven internationally, sayonara is a rookie, and jampii done good at BBL? might be regionally but nowhere near world class

basically 2v2 but even then less has clearly fallen off recently

plus loud should be the last time less was considered world class, that loud 2022 roster was 5 world class players.

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Congo1

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keiko isnt proven internationally

this is verifably untrue.

sayonara is a rookie

yes. The rookie with the best T2 career in history of EMEA

less has clearly fallen off recently

sure that is why in both kickoff and stage 2 he had some of the best perfromances in the league

severe lack of ball knowledge in this comment

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OldIGN

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Keiko internationally:

Bangkok: Eliminated in groups

EWC: Eliminated in qualifiers

Toronto: Eliminated in groups

Champs: Eliminated in groups

Sayonara literally is a rookie.

Less was 3rd best on vitality during kickoff, SLIGHTLY better than average in bangkok, vitality were eliminated 7/8th in stage 2. Didnt make toronto or champs? Hes clearly declined. Wouldnt say world class.

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Keiko: Bankok 1.09, Toronto 1.10, Paris 1.00

played 3 events. Performed very well at 2 and decent in the third. That is the definitionn of proven. All he needs is a team.

Sayonara is a better rookie thatn woot and riens were. The players youre tryna gas up from 2024. Lets not even talk about benjy and mb.

Less in EMEA: 1.11, 1.09, 0.95

If this roster as rumoured moves into stage 1 this coment will look very silly in hindsight

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Keiko is a good player. Not a world class player. Give it up.

Sayonara is a rookie, we cant know if he'll do good or bad in T1 (already proven by kaajak, wasnt doing good in off season/start of kickoff, then adapted and improved throughout the year)

Less was slightly better than average on team vitality when it was a super team, and doing average in a bad team vitality?

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You refuse to accept real data to force your horrible takes. Why? I dont know. I present you Keikos data and you just say....nah.

Kaajak was the 4th highest rated player in kickoff. Even in his opening game, which was his worst, he had an 0.98. woot started with a 1.07 in stage 1. Rookies have repeatedly been extremely successful in EMEA. Why this odd narrative?

In no world are Less' 1.09 and 1.11 slightly above average. Like what? That really really good rating. One of those happening in stage 2 on a disfunctional team that didnt make playoffs.

Even if Keiko doesnt join you will really have to eat your words next season with your takes about these players.

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Lets pray they extend keiko. You cant replace him!

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segijedegovna

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uh oh another 2024 im gonna kms

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Ohh I feel it's gonna be another Mystic/ Enzo type of shit. God help us

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I'm going to fucking end it all. Please please please Keiko, I'm on my fucking knees here. We need you to stay with nAts, he can't do it all by himself. PLEASE

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We should end it all

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coach engh
nats
avova
keiko
derke
sayonara