aspas can't adapt

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#1
DrSiemann
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where are the haters when the goat has the second best rating in the group stage of the biggest tournament of the year playing 4 different duelists? I thought yall said he was a one trick pony.

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tensa6251
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For real, people are so quick to prey on somebodys downfall

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Ryzen_
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Did people unironically say this and believe it? His team might be ass the majority of the time but Aspas is one of like 3 Duelists from pre-franchise who is still good.

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c4rrotstix
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Name the 3 bc i think ur missing someone

Aspas, derke, zekken, jingg

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Ryzen_
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Honestly I wasn't even thinking of Zekken and Jingg. I feel like Jingg wasn't really peaking and in the convo until 2023 PRX. Zekken wasn't qualifying to most events back then either. Also, Zekken isn't on the same level whatsoever as peak Aspas, Derke or Jingg.

Actually can't think of a 3rd now that I'm trying.

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UWUKIttyCatda
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BuzZ was good pre-franchising, and won an international this year (even with the controversy). I'd also argue keznit was good pre-franchising and is still good (but tbh his results don't really hold up, and I think he's worse than zekken tbf).

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Ryzen_
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I knew there was a Korean I forgot but I don't really follow their scene outside of internationals.

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c4rrotstix
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I personally never said he cant adapt i js dont like it when he's good bc it means the teams i like arent

However i can accept it this tourney bcs it means verno gets the wins he deserves

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Galactc
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Yoru has done incredible damage to a lot of duelist players for literally no reason

#9
Germy
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no. he has done a lot of GOOD for duelist players by weeding out all the braindead aimers. real pro players would be able to adapt and play the best duelist.

#10
Galactc
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Nah overrated agent we're just forcing players to play him for no reason and it makes them worse

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Germy
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not at all overrated. why do you think ENVY have looked so good when they have a perma yoru? same with PRX, something became basically perma yoru with a few sova maps and he legit looks like the best player to ever grace the VCT

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Galactc
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That's cool and all but he's overrated without being bad he definitely just doesn't cater to every team on all maps and it's pointless to force them to just deal with it when they can go play something else look at mibr for example

#8
Germy
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water is wet...
bro has been a jett/raze only since before time had a name... and we are HEAVY into a yoru meta that wont change for a LONG time

#11
DrSiemann
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we are 1 patch away from anything happening. Riot killed jett, sage, chamber and tejo all with 1 update each, no one is safe.

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Germy
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ok and yoru was absolute horse shit before he got the rework. any slight nerf will NOT be enough to kill him, he has way too much going for him but is also extremely high skill so its not worth riot nerfing him.

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backslider
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4 agents being jett, raze, neon, and waylay

If anyone was saying aspas wasn’t good at these 4 roles before champs they were braindead

The problem is his yoru

#15
Jayde
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Artzin got that

#16
backslider
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Yep which is why this team is good and a top 8 team in the world

#19
noahkraken
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Does he? He’s had a single good performance on it recently. It’s previously been mediocre

#22
Jayde
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He doesnt need to be good at it, just mediocre

#24
noahkraken
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You could be right, but we’ll see how it plays out

#17
DrSiemann
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waylay wasn't even a thing before champs, she got buffed in june and it didn't pick up for most of stage 2. also the only other meta duelist is yoru, and he wasn't seeing a lot of play last year when people started saying this.

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backslider
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Anyone who though aspas wouldn’t be good at jett 2.0 waylay doesn’t watch aspas play

#18
Yistyy
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Asspiss haters are so funny. Cuz its like, yeah he's a baiter but he wins while doing it so who cares.

#20
noahkraken
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The criticism was specifically about not learning to play Yoru. He didn’t. That’s really it

#27
DrSiemann
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nah, it started last year when yoru was dogshit

#28
Nilonesia
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Aspas champs bonus effect

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