BuzZ was good pre-franchising, and won an international this year (even with the controversy). I'd also argue keznit was good pre-franchising and is still good (but tbh his results don't really hold up, and I think he's worse than zekken tbf).

People complained about apac having too many slots pre franchising too, just saying.

At least prx didn't lose their first grand final 3-0.

PRX lost as many grand finals as OPTC/NV btw.

They play ascension this year, it takes place after champs, so they don't have to wait a whole year.

tbf, if we're talking about cores, that 'core' would just be boaster. Realistically, the boaster + derke 'core', or the 2023 core (boaster, chron, alfa) both have similar, or even better resumes than the prx core imo. FNC are 100% the most accomplished org though.

Winning stage 2 is still a trophy, with a prize pool, and practice in real games is not really worth wasting.

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Aren't they 6-1? They won lock-in to go 2-0, lost emea to liquid in grand finals to go 2-1, won tokyo to go 3-1, won emea stage 1 from lowers to go 5-1, won emea stage 2 from uppers to go 6-1.

But people remember GMB and SEN for 2021, people barely even remember Acend, even though they won champs. People remember OPTC for 2022 more than Loud (although I think they were very close). People remember FNC more for 2023 than EG. It seems more like there's just not really a correlation imo.