Is johnqt an overrated IGL?

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#1
chocoinmytacos
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Btw, terrible mid-rounding in Haven, if he was the one calling the shots in mid-round also.

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KNGHT
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Yes internationally regionally no. In international games he shits the bed against any non-cn team. But regionally he outcalls the majority of igls

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DomiBay01
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that just might be because the region all in all is shit

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shrike-
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Feels like he’s going down the FNS route

have an incredible read on the game, win a championship, then go through several meta shifts until he no longer has a clear read

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Ultia
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That’s also the Boostio route. Only my GOAT Valyn has been consistent

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shrike-
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It’s about time he gets his

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KingHeadasz
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i heard the assistant coach (anderzz i think) is like a god at reading the meta, so that definitely helps.

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Ultia
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Which is interesting because G2 plays a ton of double Smokes and Senti while both Masters winners this year played double Duelist.

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KingHeadasz
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maybe i over exaggerated but i think he was the main turning point for G2 like, always running tejo.

For never winning an international i got nothing for that tbh.

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prope1
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true anderzz pioneered the fnc 23 lotus comp that everyone still uses cant wait to see what g2 cooked up new for abyss

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AleAlejandro
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Consistently never winning an international tournament yeah. The real IGL goat is Boaster

#14
Ultia
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Boaster had the equivalent of a Superteam the one year he won his trophies. On the other hand, Valyn dragged a core of rookies to an international in 2022, through Ascension, and then to 5/6 internationals in the last two years. Give the man some props.

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AleAlejandro
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Valyn dragged a core of rookies to an international in 2022

And Boaster dragged a team of nobody rookies to the first ever international grand finals

through Ascension

Wow he won a tier 2 tournament

and then to 5/6 internationals in the last two years

And when there had only been 6 international tournaments in this game period Boaster had made 5 of them.

Boaster has achieved everything Valyn has and way more on top of that. Why should I give props to Valyn for achieving what Boaster already had 3 years ago?

#21
shrike-
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you’re here yapping about something obvious when the guy said “my goat”

i think sentinels losing affected your reading comprehension

#17
hellfire
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put valyn on fnatic that team is never losing a game

#18
AleAlejandro
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Right now yeah. All time Boaster clears Valyn and its not even close.

#19
nooomy
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consistently not winning an international event, unlike Boostio and FNS

btw remember when he choked the 1v1 to win bangkok?

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jawn
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zellsis is the main midrounder

#7
TheSmartestOneOnThisSite
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I dont think John is bad, Cloud just kind of outcalled him.

#9
Ductorian
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def not last year, this year yeah looking like it

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Zykkie
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John was never a great caller, but he is a great trader and clutcher. Not all IGLs need to be insane an insane callers. So i do not think that he is overrated. Today at least ,it was not definetely not his fault.

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copingismypassion
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john is the GOAT , no cope , the meta revolves and currently is not suiting his style of calling thats all , personally he just needs to implement a more stratbook type of play to the current roaster like G2 and NRG for a chance to even make it out of group stage , needs to study the opponent more clearly they didnt do their research enough , they knew GX likes to show aggression on some defence rounds GX go for high risk high reward and follow a complete stratbook play when they do so thus they won SEN relies on calling more so if they loose john is the one to blame while in reality its not him , its just the style of "playing" that is fucking this current roaster over and thus people start to think or blame that sen lost again oh no , no Chinese teams john bad remove john he dogshit , i dont get these low iq people

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KClaw
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GX are a good team u guys thought they are just another team that fluked their way to champs ,no they didn't bro . Also any team except geng has no fucking clue how to play the attack side with the viper comp on haven

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