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About Points

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#1
dimmed

I understand some of you guys are mad about points meaning DRX, TH and MIBR qualify over their counterparts but if you look at it they're way more deserving than the alternative:

In Kickoff, TLN were 4th whilst DRX WON kickoff
In stage 1 groups, TLN went 3-2 in their group whilst DRX went 4-1
In stage 1 playoffs, TLN were 5-6th whilst DRX were 4th
In stage 2 groups, TLN went 3-2 whilst DRX went 4-1
In stage 2 groups, TLN were 3rd whilst DRX were 5-6th
Meaning the only time TLN actually did better than DRX is in stage 2 playoffs whilst DRX were better for the rest of the ENTIRE year

In Kickoff, TH were 3rd whilst BBL were 5-6th & GX were 7-8th
In Stage 1 groups, TH went 5-0 whilst BBL went 4-1 & GX went 1-4
In stage 1 playoffs, TH were 2nd whilst BBL were 4th and GX didn't qualify
In stage 2 groups, TH went 5-0 AGAIN whilst BBL and GX both went 3-2
In stage 2 playoffs, TH came in 5-6th whilst GX and BBL are 2nd-3rd
Meaning like TLN, BBL and GX have only outperformed TH once this ENTIRE YEAR

In Kickoff, MIBR were 3rd whilst C9 were 9-12th
In stage 1 groups, MIBR went 4-1 whilst C9 went 3-2
In stage 1 playoffs, MIBR got 3rd whilst C9 were 7-8th
In stage 2 groups, MIBR went 2-3 whilst C9 were 3-2
In stage 2 playoffs, MIBR didn't qualify whilst C9 came 4th
Whilst C9 did technically outperform MIBR for the entirety of stage 2, they not had an easier group but were also not just but significantly worse than MIBR for the rest of the year

The fact is with teams like DRX and TH, there was a very good chance for them to not qualify despite doing better in every part of the year other than playoffs, any teams or fans complaining about their qualification when your team just fell short at the end are pathetic. For MIBR, the argument is certainly weaker since they were irrefutably had worse results than C9 in stage 2 but C9 haven't proved themselves to be better head-to-head than MIBR once. Had NRG came 4th, I would understand the compliants but C9 do not deserve champs, NRG do but not C9.

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beaverboii
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ain't reading allat'

#3
Veri
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MIBR was unarguably the 3rd best Americas team in 2025 as of now, anyone that thinks they dont deserve champs is recency biased.

#4
mulyondoindon
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The ultimate goal for any team in this game is Champs. So if they perform well in the first half of the season but collapse right before Champs, do they really deserve to reach the finish line?

It’s like declaring the winner of a marathon based on who once had the highest average pace, even if they fell before the finish line, instead of the one who actually crossed it.

But that's my humble opinion only

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mulyondoindon
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correcting with some analogy

#6
mulyondoindon
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shitass drx fans keeps downvoting me even when I'm not ragebaiting them. Truly a marvelous harvest from me

#7
Asp3ct_Vlr
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But the teams that were good by the end were the ones that were arguably shittier earlier...every team's end goal is champs

if ur argument stands then why not just send 4 teams from stage 2 to champs...recent form is not the only thing that matters in this game and that diminishes the value of stage 1,kickoff and masters events

The whole point of champs points is consistency throughout the whole year

#8
mulyondoindon
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that's my opinion about the current point system tho. Not saying that it's bad. Just not ideal for this kind of situation

#9
dimmed
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Your analogy suggests C9 caught up or even overtook MIBR, I think you are forgetting all records are reset at the start stage of Stage 2, overall MIBR had the same match record as C9 this year of 6-4. Had we kept the same system as last year, MIBR would've qualified for playoffs. Mind you this doesn't even include kickoff or C9's much easier group stage 2.

To make your analogy more accurate it'd be like if half way through the marathon we stop all runners in the lead and dragged them back to where the runners who had fallen behind were and THEN restarted the marathon, so not only do the runners in the lead lose their advantage they also don't get to rest.

#11
Asp3ct_Vlr
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Well said

#13
mulyondoindon
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ah thanks for the better analogy.

#10
Trip11
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Well, if there was a marathon that give awards to runners with the best average pace, it'd still be a cool event and many will participate. Noone would complain that the rules were different because they all knew what they signed up for.

Point is, every team knew how champs points worked since the start of the year. Rito made it in such a way so that every match -- even the ones at the start of the year, also the group stages -- they all matter. DRX simply played the long game and was rewarded for it.

#12
uwukitten
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you're stating the obvious but with how retarded the people on this site are I guess it must be stated. I don't know why people think peaking for a few games near the end of the season makes you more deserving than being consistently good the whole year. not to mention those teams didn't even peak THAT high otherwise they'd just finish top 2.

I think the only one you can make an argument doesn't deserve it is MIBR because of how they couldn't even make playoffs

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Asp3ct_Vlr
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IMO the whole mibr situation was just a bit of luck on their side too...every system has its downsides and Mibr is just one of those off chances where they just made it by things happening in favour of them

Keep in mind there was a chance that furia the team with basically 0 wins make it to playoffs at one point by some sort of tie breaker with EG...shit happens

#16
uwukitten
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yeah it's fair, I think this is a good system and they shouldn't change i

#14
Dybala21
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Finally someone with a brain. Thank you

#17
markass_brownee
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w dimmed post you have good takes
I hate DRX cause of t0rmi tho lmao the rest are fine

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