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#1
red123

Would envy if they switch out eggster with someone serious be a top 3 americas team? I mean americas is kinda dogshit right now and they look pretty dominant in Tier 2

#2
CurryCooker
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no.

#3
Ldrago
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tricky cause if they do that they would need a smoker, duelist and a fragger

#4
fiv5Mmmmm
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T1 is very different from T2, Envy would be on the same level as Furia and 2G in the Americas

#5
_techpause
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They’re better than furia and 2g. Early 2025 furia performed worse than the middle of the pack T2 NA team.

No t2 team has been this dominant (albeit a t2 level). Not even the guard was this good

#16
kfan4238173
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main reason why the guard werent as good is because they had to play in a good league with teams like m80. envy dont have to play tough teams ever

#19
chrlxz
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the guard played vs way better teams

#20
koromast
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you are capping, envy dominate in terms of acs and stats but they have only won a split out of 3 so far

#21
TM06Nick
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who else is in the league? SRB? 2023 T2 clears 2025

#6
Zexkay
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def not. Envy literally dominates alot of the T1 teams in scrims.

#8
fiv5Mmmmm
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scrims don't say much, Furia won several scrims against very strong teams, but in official games they were dogshit

#9
Zexkay
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furia has litr never dominated a scrim against a good team. they lost 5-12 to shopify black in scrims.

#10
fiv5Mmmmm
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Losing a scrim to a weak team doesn't mean they haven't beaten strong teams, bro.

#11
Zexkay
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find me a single scrim theyve dominated a good team in, i can give 20 scrims where they got shit on by plumbers.

#13
fiv5Mmmmm
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FUR 9x3 and 10x5 KRU, FUR 14x9 100T, FUR 8x0 LOUD, FUR 13x8 MIBR. These are some results, in my opinion, all these teams are better than Furia, but they were losing to them in scrims

#18
ScoutViolet
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probably all on lotus or ascent.
Furia are VERY good on lotus. VERY good. And they're pretty decent/good on ascent. But they kinda suck on every map (does everyone remember that one statistic lol with their stats on lotus vs every other map. It was night and day).

#12
BBTBNWJDFOTSYK
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i made a lot of profit by basing my bets on scrim results. a good example was wolves in toronto, they were dominating everyone in apac scrims. the only loss i had was from the sen match, and i skipped out on geng because it felt too risky

this whole “scrims don’t matter” argument is garbage. do scrims perfectly reflect stage performance? no. but do they play a major role in predicting form and potential? absolutely

#24
koromast
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so does xolos and we havent seen them in LAN yet.

#7
Germy
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nah Envy's whole shpeal is that they know how to shoot, out of all of Furia/2G only heat and spike know what Mouse1 does

#14
DivineGoonLord
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inspire and POPPIN are not that good for tier 1 level imo

#15
temi
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No…. He’s ability to switch from entry to play making (support) to lurking yoru is a huge part of why the team works well

#17
Castawaytwizz
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I think you're being very harsh on Eggsterr, he might not be the most consistent fragger but his role is to open the game up for Cane/Ion and he does that pretty much perfectly

#22
TM06Nick
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are cane and ion over 18 starting Jan 2026 or what? cause if they ascend they are not playing for months/a year

#23
goat1594
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Cane won't be able to play until Split 2 next year. Ion won't be able to play until the 2027 season. They'll have to survive without them next year and hope that Cane coming back allows them to at least qualify for Ascension again. Unless the stand-ins they get are good next year, a lot of people are suggesting Demon1 for Cane and are not sure who would stand in for Ion yet. Even when Cane comes back if Demon1 is the stand in they could just swap him back to smokes.

#25
notcabo
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Lmao what is this eggster slander? He’s literally a crucial part of this team

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