Whuch mouse is mickier

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ash_knuckles

EWC or lock in

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Jayde

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Ewc cuz lock in had decent production

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how do the saudis have a billion dollars and not be able to put any of that behind good production

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is the other game was bad too? genuinely asking because i only watch apex & val

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Sen madrid win

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Jayde

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0/8 noone gonna fall for this

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😿

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Toronto

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ArterieX

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madrid or 1st reykjavik

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TM06Nick

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EWC cause g2 leaf did not play

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themaniel

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EWC and it’s not even close

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lock//in was on LAN and had good production

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for me, there's a difference between stupid funny tournaments (lock in) and stupid tournaments (ewc)

i wish we could have another lock in, because literally everyone could root for their team, and for many orgs/players that was their first and last lan literally ever

how else am i going to see matchups like nukkye vs seoldam, or dgzin vs carpe? like there are so many players who i somewhat follow, and who arent necessarily at the top, and they just exist in completely isolated universes now

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This

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lockin was fun to watch as hell. new meta, new teams, new maps... idk why ppl hate on lockin so much cuz i felt like it was very entertaining and a great tourny to start franchise

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I think the hate was from the single-elimination bracket stage (how the hell could you pull off double-elimination with that many teams?) and how much that discredits the fnatic victory?

maybe i'm too casual, but when i watch these VCT matches, i'm not watching to see who wins - i'm there for new and entertaining player-player interactions. like yeah maybe seeing good competitive matches between fnatic, loud, etc. is worthwhile, but it's also really Fun and Entertaining to watch the scream/nivera KC roster go against five chinese players led by berlin, even if both teams are a mess. and we don't get that kind of magic at our LANs anymore.

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it's funny because in like tennis and some other sports - tournaments have always been single elim - but no one sees these as less valid whilst in valorant people have this notion because of all the double elim tournaments that single elim is now mickey mouse

it just rewards a different set of skills - consistency to not lose at all and being able to beat people on the first approach without significant anti-stratting help. I bet if you tried to introduce double elim in some of the other sports it would be widely protested for allowing champions to come out of the losers - so it's just really whatever the fanbase has been conditioned to accept

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Berlin 2022

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kyro1

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lock in fs single elim is cheeks

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Jayde

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This is also single elim bro

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kyro1

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not all of it at least and there is consolation final

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"Consolation" ts so Lame <\3

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I used to shit on lock in but at least it's a riot hosted event

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lock in was far more micky. but it had better production and the best crowd

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eStos

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Lock In was a Riot hosted event at least. EWC is shady asl

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teilwal

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madrid and 2021 reykjavic

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eStos

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Sentinels won Masters Madrid....

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notepicfailboi

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He’s a fake flair. He admitted to being a sen hater

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eStos

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that makes sense

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teilwal

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both still mickey tho

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sameer40

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2021 champs if were being fr