Why IGLs prefer initiator to sentinel when calling

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Uncleben

Disclaimer; Johnqt should play sentinel, not init imo because his sentinel is one of the best in the world even while calling.

When your playing sentinel, your often lurking on attack or anchoring on defense. This means you’re almost always on the weak side regardless of t or ct side. Playing the weak side means you need to be really aware and focused on ur crosshair; if you make a mistake and die on defense, you give up ur entire site. On attack, your team loses crucial map control if you die for free. This is quite difficult to do while also calling and looking at minimap.

On initiator, on the other hand, your playing with the group, so your teammates can prevent you from being caught of guard while mentally distracted or looking at minimap. You also don’t need to win 1v1s, as you can either get trade kills or get traded. Additionally, actually being there for retakes/site execs/floods allows you to micromanage utility, your teammates, and the timing. If your on the other side of the map, your totally reliant on ur teammates comms and minimap info for this part.

This is why a lot of IGLs want to play init. I don’t think it suits all of them, but it does make sense

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Additionally, fns is a good example of the flaws of igling while playing senti. Because he is so focused on calling, he never takes risks on senti. As a result, nrg really struggled with information on defense because fns never pushed up and always played retake = very poor def round win rate.

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Dudhi

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Synchro or Pendulum?

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Uncleben

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Idk what that means

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mustafais

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thats why you have a midrounder named zellsis

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Trykan

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I feel like midrounders are so underrated
IGLs should focus on the main gameplan (discussions between rounds on what should be expected) and midrounders will adapt the plan based on what is currently happening in the round, they both don't need to be the same person.

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mustafais

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thats the reason why patitek is so crucial at Liquid. Despite having nats with barely any practice they were still playing very well

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Galactc

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Yeah people are trying to do far too much but also orgs need to figure this out because it's not like you can just make a midrounder overnight it's something you think about when forming the roster but then again there's ot like around 10-15 orgs in t1 that actually think when making rosters at most so idk

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KC would be unironically top at least top 3 EMEA if they had a good dedicated midrounder, Saadhak and Engh are great at all the other requirements but midrounding needs help

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Uncleben

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Imagine if they got nats instead of elite. Would never happen, but I can always dream. Nats + Eng reunion 😭

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Ngl it still really doesn't make sense just play your comfort role honestly duelist igl if you have to no reason to role swap purely to igl

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Uncleben

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I think Johnqt is doing it because he used to main initiator and still does it in ranked. However, especially considering their midrounder zellsis is a good init, I do think he should play senti

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Galactc

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I feel like besides chamber meta he felt like a far more complete senti anyway he really should play it

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Agreed as well. I wasn’t sure how his fragging would hold up when he got picked up from m80 cause his initiator fragging was just okay even in t2, but when he played senti for sen he looked like their MVP (fragging nearly as well as tekkenz while calling)