Wo0t or Leo

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#1
merciless-pity8989-89
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If you were the coach of some mid EMEA team and you want a player to propel the team to qualify for Toronto or champs, and you had the choice between wo0t or Leo, who would you choose.

IMO wo0t

#2
Ronyko23
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Woot is better shooter.

#3
jawn
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now we know why you’re not a coach in some mid emea team

#6
merciless-pity8989-89
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my answer is just based on who would frag heavier and who can play agents more suitable to carry

#7
jawn
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that’s not how teams are built, you pick someone that collectively upgrades the team not someone that carries, it ain’t 2021 anymore

#9
merciless-pity8989-89
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Leo has never carried a team to success before, not even for a brief period. He wasn’t even Fnatic’s best player for the majority of 2023 either.

wo0t has

#14
catNmouse
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https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf/?game=132712&tab=overview

https://www.vlr.gg/341821/team-heretics-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-gf

#15
merciless-pity8989-89
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mf really picked out singular matches to prove his point lmao

#17
catNmouse
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You said for a brief period, he carried his team vs EG in a must win match, carried them for majority of the lock-in matches

#20
Alint
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i live for heretics but like, its leo bro... stage 1 emea 2024 leo second highest rating, 2023 tokyo leo second highest again, lock in 4th highest, champs 2023 leo second highest, 2023 emea league leo third highest.

okay it might seem like im glazing a little too hard but leo was genuinely one of the best players itw, obv he hasnt played in over a year i think so who knows know but don't disrespect the goat.

regardless, heretics are a better team overall and thats what matters, woot is an important component im not denying that

#16
scorpliet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMh22ikCI8&t=1s

You dont know what youre talking about

#18
merciless-pity8989-89
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he was barely his own teams best player for most of his time at fnatic. Best initiator yes, but saying he was best player itw is crazy.

He was the best for a short time period at the start of franchising at lock-in but even that was arguable.

Nostalgia merchant

#32
penop
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everyone had him as top 3 for the best player itw

#34
wonkeldee
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A lot of coaches would tell you that Leo is the closest player to playing perfect valorant. Besides his aim was nuts as well.

#31
jawn
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you pick someone that collectively upgrades the team not someone that carries

READ

#39
Marv04
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Leo was Close to MVP of Champs 2023. Behind Demon1 who had his best season. Leo was the second MVP of Fnatic in Master Tokyo. And at Lock in he was the MVP of the Tournament. What else you want from a player lmao. Not carried to success he said and they won two trophies

#4
Hades_Loves_Rb
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One would win us 2 trophies and the other would lose us 2 finals

#5
Switchrr
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I think the majority would take Leo based on pure status. Widely regarded as the GOAT initiator. Only gamble is whether he is still close to his previous form.

Personally though, I would take Wo0t as it's less of a gamble

#8
MrHyphon
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Give me the mid EMEA team first

#10
Uribaba
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right now itd be woot because even though leo is the goat he hasnt been played in 1.5(2?)years so i cant really be sure he still got the mechanics

#11
merciless-pity8989-89
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no mean 2023 Leo

#13
Uribaba
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then 2023 leo ofc

#12
morgue
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current form?? woot. in their prime? obv leo

#19
riensluvr
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wo0t obviously

Leo is one of the greatest players to ever play but he's overglazed because he quit at the top and never had a downfall

#23
Dallyn
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he didn't "quit at the top" he's essentially injured, do you think he left by his own choice to avoid a downfall?

#28
riensluvr
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no, but whether it's his fault or not doesn't affect the fact that he left at the top

#21
SudokuDude
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Leo has experience but he plays initiators. Wo0t has played smokes, initator and duelist.

#22
Dallyn
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bro just say you don't like leo lmfao

#24
Nachtel
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The best player in the world isn't a player that can carry a bad team--he's a player that thrives on the best team.

As seen by the fact that Yay had more impact on OpTic than Leo had on Guild in 2022

So unironically the smart decision is Wo0t if the rest of the team is shit

#29
Super_Devvik7
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That’s the most braindead comparison I have ever seen. AND THIS WEBSITE IS FULL OF CLOWNS

#35
Nachtel
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I'm right tho

A better example is 2024 ZmjjKK vs 2024 Leo

#36
CookieSiruwu
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uwu

#25
KINGMANNY42
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More Frags and Aggressive = Wo0t
Better Mechanics, Passive but smart = Leo

#38
merciless-pity8989-89
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wo0t has better mechanics

#26
Yuniee44
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woot so i can field 5 players and dont have to sub in cr0shies

#27
gremon
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where is theonion

#30
cohnr
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with a guarantee leo is playing for the forseeable future, definitely leo

with no guarantee you cant risk taking a player that would need to be inactive again

#33
orangejuice
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aim = wo0t
iq + game sense = leo

#37
TaniBoy
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If Current - Wo0t
If Prime- Leo

#40
Ripbozo2
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w00t 1 tournament wonder, lost to peperex too 😹😹😹

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