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C9 NRG LEV Tier2 (Come Here)

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#1
Shadow_Monarch

EG/100T included just in case they both lose in their Lower Bracket runs in Playoffs.

Actually Good Players:
C9 - V1c
NRG - S0m, Ethan, Mada
LEV - Kingg, Demon1, Tex
EG - Supamen, Yay, Icy?
100T - Cryo, Zander, Eeiu
Tier 2 - Vora, Skuba, Sato, Pa1nt?, Kess?, Shondex?, Nismo? Bring back Koalanoob and Florescent and let them play in Americas 100%
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F/A - Marved, Curry, Subroza, Inspire?, etc

Literal Paycheck Stealers:
C9 - NET, Mitch, Xeppa, Oxy
NRG - FNS, Brawk
LEV - C0M, Rossy
EG - DERREK, Nature, Icy?
100T - BOOSTIO, Asuna?
Tier2 - Not mentioned above = Huge gap from the better players who are ready for Tier 1.

Coaches, Staffs, Organization Managers.... Listen Up. Create better rosters and form Super Teams with potential. It's not that hard. Stop failing with mid rosters and embarrassing the Org, the fans, theviewers, and even the players playing in a mid ass team. And also remove the Nepotism as well please. Thank you and Good luck.

("Good Players" = potential to win an International Trophy)

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ARix145
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Brawk ain't a paycheck stealer he just came in the league give him some time

#3
Kirako
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brawk's aight on yay level rating

#MVGA

#4
NoOne_ButMe
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ethan is on fraud watch
oxy is a good player
and the F/A u mentioned are even worst than the paycheck stealers

#8
Shadow_Monarch
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Just added for last second options. Oxy has no brain. Ethan has a brain and a Champions trophy.

#12
xo_ko
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oxy is in no way a good player, most overrated duelist in americas right now

#14
Maniacwolf
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I can agree with overrated right now, but he’s a good player who deserves to be in tier one

#5
kfan4238173
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Subroza, Nismo and Ethan “good” players 😭

#6
Maniacwolf
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Ngl Cryo eeiu and zander (if he stays in the form we saw him play yesterday) is a very good start to a roster. Asuna isn’t terrible and is usually good for an entry kill

#7
Hobbit
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c9:

replace net w skuba and xeppaa w seven

kick immi and sign drewspark

#9
Shadow_Monarch
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Vora plays better Sova Tejo Fade than both Xeppa and Seven, but I fuck with this too.

#13
Huitzilopochtli
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Vora is also an igl

#26
Hobbit
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i need to see more of vora, because (sometimes) he plays worse than usual against team with actual structure and experienced players (Cubert, YFP, M80...)

seven is one of the players w the most trajectory and would be considered the most experienced rookie in valorant if he ever plays tier 1. i also heard that his comms are good, which would be an upgrade already from neT's

maybe vora has more potential and has better peaks (this one i doubt), but i just trust seven more (and i also want to see him in tier 1 one day)

#10
paind
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for c9, mitch has been looking like the best player on c9 lowkey, oxy is an absurd aimer i think he just needs a better system, and im sure hes biased but oxy described xeppaa as the perfect teammate. i think -net -immi and they could be pretty good

#11
THICCONMIXER123
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Such a braindead way to classify players, is there no in between? Are u either actually good or a paycheck stealing piece of shit?
I agree NA is recycling too much talent rn but don’t act like if u were in charge you could just fix everything. As we saw with the NRG situation, players can seriously strongarm an orgs attempt to integrate new talent

#15
nobody___100
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this guy keeps making random ass posts that are all bad
mitch is good
brawk easily over ethan
icy over derrek and nature, especially nature, what are u cooking bruh
zander he said. 1 life game zander.

dont get this guy anywhere near esports management

#17
Shadow_Monarch
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Mitch is good? Then why has he been recycled multiple times? Are you only saying he's good from just the past 1 or 2 games? Lmfao.
Brawk was good in Sova meta which is the past, he's not that good in this new Tejo meta.
Icy over Derrek and Nature I 100% agree, but if he keeps that form he's in now. He wasn't that great in G2 and we all know it.
Zander was always good as he proved in M80, he just didn't do well WITH 100T because things take time.

Quit acting like you're an OpTic fan. I bet you're the type to say Crashies Victor FNS had a big relevance when it was all Yay and Marved. Know your shit.

#18
H3ENnZ
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if u watched the games u know mitch is a good IGL and pulling up numbers

#20
Shadow_Monarch
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https://www.vlr.gg/459537/furia-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w4
https://www.vlr.gg/459534/cloud9-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/459528/leviat-n-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w2

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he performed well in Playoffs and against G2 & SEN, but I don't know why he doesn't play Tejo over Sova.

#22
H3ENnZ
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Gave me 3 games and two of them were his team winning 2-0 and him not falling too far behind
The game against MiBR is bad i will give u that

#19
nobody___100
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im saying hes good from the past 10 games hes played this season. you're saying hes bad because shitty management goes back to the same players. its entirely unrelated.
brawk is a great player. hes been in tier 1 for a few weeks and is already solid on multiple roles and holding his own. punting him back to tier 2 now is idiocy.
i think u misunderstood what i said. derrek is easily better than icy. nature is leagues better. its not a comparison. icy is the first to go from this roster unless he steps up.
your logic for zander is backwards when you look at what u say for brawk and mitch. you sound real dumbass rn.

and optic were never a firepower team outside yay and marved. loud mogged them in terms of strength. fns' calls with the other two's flexibility and util made the team work. YOU dont know your shit dumbass.

#24
Shadow_Monarch
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Ah you a funny one. Zander clears both Brawk and Mitch until Brawktagon shows up and Mitch keeps things consistent, which I highly doubt.
Yeah obv FNS made good calls and yes its Crashies and Victors job to use their utils, state the obvious more, but Marved and Yay carried hard without a doubt.
EG has a chance to step it up right now and make it through the lowers bracket, but if they fail I don't want to see Derrek and Nature bottom fragging like MOST of the series + Icy has that coldness aim and potential whereas Derrek and Nature does not.
Idc if Brawk stays in Tier 1, I liked him in Tier 2. He's just not performing at that same level he is now so give him time sure, but he needs to step it up by Stage 2. Vora already clears Brawk in terms of current meta. I expected Brawk to come out like Verno but we'll see.

#16
Rubicon
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Most of these teams are not going to be making any changes at all, let alone major roster rebuilds like you're suggesting, in the middle of the season. Changing everything just resets your progress and puts you even further behind the teams that are already better than you, and you're just going to end up signing placeholder players that get cycled out when actual free agency hits anyway. NRG will only make changes if FNS retires and forces their hand. 100T and EG will stay the same. C9 might look for Bonkar if NRG are willing to do business but probably won't drop any players (maybe neT if SEN are willing to part with skuba). LEV will swap to kiNgg IGLing but unless that means Rossy wants out I don't think they'll make any other changes.

#21
KINGMANNY42
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KoalaNoob is slamming in NAVI were gatekeeping him

#23
Liem
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Curry

#25
bobwoblob
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Dropping 4 players from C9 is insanely dumb lmao. Their issue is clearly a mental one where they get into their own head and throw so many more rounds than they would in regular season.

The actual change they need is getting a sports psych to help them deal with the pressure.

#27
Ementor
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Literally just poach Cubert Academy's team. They all have 0 buyouts. (Maybe you have to replace Reduxx since he is SEN's 6th man and SEN will not release him easily). There are also a lot of other very good players in NA tier 2 who will not make/win ascension. Just try them out and make a team with fresh talent. You can keep 1-2 players who are already in tier 1 for their experience. Its what MIBR did. Got Aspas and Artzin from tier 1 and got Verno, Cortezia and Xenom from tier 2 teams.

NRG would have literally been perfect if Bonkar had been allowed to bench FNS and get another IGL like Rossy who was a F/A at the time.

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