top 10 at the absolute minimum, don’t care what you have to say
2 trophies and an mvp, 3 international finals, a couple regional trophies + has been a mainstay in apac ever since northeption
deserves to be in the conversation among the best oat
top 10 at the absolute minimum, don’t care what you have to say
2 trophies and an mvp, 3 international finals, a couple regional trophies + has been a mainstay in apac ever since northeption
deserves to be in the conversation among the best oat
2023, 2022, 2021 performance where
goat conversation is leo (2021-2024) sacy (2022-2024) aspas (2022-2024) derke (2021-2025) chronicle (2021-2024) less (2022-2025)
newgen my ass, meteor did more in 2 years than leo did in 4 with similar stats, don’t @ me
similar stats.... oh my lord just say your new PLEASE i cant comprehend that you arent new and say this. And trophies dont prove individual stength bro, actually dont know what logic your going for
meteor is crazy individually, he was a fucking demon on gen.g and he’s doing the same shit here
dawg. meteor is good, but leo is different. just accept you didnt watch val at that time dude its embarassing
you can accept you have rose tinted glasses for 2022-2023 and that leo was only ever that insane for one season
also the only point leo was ever better than alfajer individually was lock//in and ill die on that hill, leo ain’t all that
"leo was ever better than alfajer individually was lock//in"
Meteor was tied individually with almost everyone on gen.g and t1 ????????????
lets compare all international performances
leo #2 copenhagen
leo #4 lock in
leo #2 tokyo
leo #2 champs LA
meteor #14 bangkok
meteor shangai unrated event (maybe #1-10 if it was rated)
meteor #7 champs seoul
meteor #13 madrid
Put respect on leo, what he did was insane consistent and very hard to replicate
I'll agree with this last statement 100%
Lock//In don't matter, only Tokyo Masters.
leo won shit and got grouped in 2021-2022, 2023 he was the best and 2024 couldn't qualify for kickoff and got 0-2'd in shanghai
2023 leo clears but 2024-2025 meteor clears him now
Meteor in the GOAT convo 100%
Top10:
Aspas
Less
Derke
Leo
Kangkang
Demon1
Chronicle
Meteor
nAts
Yay
HM: Tenz Sacy (retired)
meteor is sooo hit or miss for me, idk how I feel about him. Like he singlehandedly lost soo many rounds for them today but also he won some crucial rounds. It's like meteor giveth and meteor taketh. For me, iZu was the true MVP but meteor is definitely an X factor type of player.
he's been very unreliable and not nearly as consistent as he was on geng but the haven rungun flick on jonahp and the 1v3 viper clutch (horribly played by g2 btw) kinda life plays is all that matters to the recency bias morons
whats the point of being in the goat discussion if youre just gonna put him 8th.
goat is for the greatest of all time, if youre not even considered top3 youre not even a goat
he’s the only eastern player ever to be a repeat champion he’s gotta at least be in the conversation