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twitch scandal

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Not_alt_account
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This topic is really deep, almost all streamers were helps to money laundering.

edit: i hope all they get banned from every platform and go to jail.

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MilanTheMyth
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So Deep that DeepMans was involved KEKW

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Not_alt_account
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Yes. Money laundering while 15 yo. This kid is really another level

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justadude
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Madlad

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ItsMeDio
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can someone explain the scandal? how they money laundering on twitch?

#5
MilanTheMyth
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Bits I think

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Wwpcc
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Stolen credit card was used to buy bits for streamers... And they knew it.

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ItsMeDio
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they in ur line... u mean the streamers, right?

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Wwpcc
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Yes

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Ryan9500
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tldr I found on reddit:

A group of Turkish MMO players decide to look at recent twitch leaks to dig up dirt on streamers who are on opposing factions. They notice absurdly high bit donations on very small streamers. After sharing what they found people start investigating and discover that credit card scammers are using the cards they stole to send bit to these streamers and make them send them back through bitcoin(minus their share), basically money laundering. Also there are rumours that some of these streamers are threatening people who call them out with legal action and other things.

original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qih8w0/big_scandal_in_turkish_twitch_community_regarding/hikjy11/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

#10
ItsMeDio
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wow

#11
hotpotatoman
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lord and saviour

#13
PicKaRuu
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wtf

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HaSanity
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WOW. i didnt realise these leaks were doing good for us. proud of the mmo players

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ritdro2211
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holy fuck
hope these guys get the punishment they deserve

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LykiaQQ
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If it is going to happen most of the current valo pro players be getting banned in Turkey, example 4 player of current roster of OXG is involved in this , 3 player of BBl

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PicKaRuu
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Who are them?

#29
cripsy
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for bbl: logicman kero and dilara

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cripsy
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BBL woman DilaraToprakci
Teamlixa Farewell
fireflux Lurzy0y0
bjk Tecone
bbl kero
da Kuzuur

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Not_alt_account
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Check Tanizhq's tweet there is too much players.

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STARBEAM000
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i swear i knew this guys was involved without even checking out who is involved... they was the first team that came in my mind!

#15
Ryxof
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No fckng way cNed is on the list
https://twitter.com/twitchbekcisi/status/1454616618894565382?t=ScjgGJpJP5FjK2Y3FxFzdg&s=19

#16
Ryxof
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Just 1 month but Idk

#17
emirerays
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he is clear from what I hear.

#19
PicKaRuu
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no way dude

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wohe
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its not official that he is on the list yet bcz that month was exactly after twitch rivals the time when everyone knew him and was blowing up in turkey and a bit of europe so its still not 100% true
though if it was i'm not surprised bcz of the amount of pros that were involved in this

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thanatos11
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I’m doubt it probably just a big month for him hopefully

#35
dagbarox
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I don't think those are anonymous bits so don't worry cNed is not involved in this

#53
hellaeleganceyeah
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20 dollars lmao probably not. the ss said 30% so cned def isnt doing this for literally 6$ lol.

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Venandi
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not official

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wohe
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apparently it was offered to a huge amount of streamers and were convinced that it was easy money that won't be of a problem in the future so most of them agreed without even thinking about the consequences for example deepmans who was 15 or younger at the time some of the known players talked about it like russz from SMB he said that he was offered a deal when he entered bbl but he refused.
ultimately nothing happened on twitch's part but if riot gets involved a big amount of turkish pros will be punished

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HaSanity
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i feel bad for deepmans, hes like brax , but he should've known the consequences of the IBP stuff from csgo.

#23
Aight
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Wtf is this shit
:(
This is a huge scandal

#24
Ibis
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Im just hoping the best players are not involved in this

#26
STARBEAM000
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it will be only the ones who have nothing to lose from the beginning. just small fries

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STARBEAM000
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ban them all! turkey is a country full of hackers! this also happen in NA imo! many random streamers who get 100+ gifted for no reason...

#55
Venandi
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If I remember true some streamers from NA has shared the mails sent them by the people who earned that money

#28
ChowChow
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RIP Turkey,
Good for EMEA, -1 region to compete for the spot in master/lcq/champions!

#31
cripsy
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most of those who do this are tier 3 players

#44
ChowChow
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No, just from this thread you can see some say OXO and BBL is involved.
Who knows many more will be exposed.
Less streamer = Less fanbase = Less player = Dead Region.

#67
Unsicklaupedy
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Turkey is a country, not a region.
Turkey is still in emea

#30
thanatos11
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Kekw imagine getting caught money laundering by a bunch of basement dwelling WoW players!

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Glycoroldas
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Don't blame them tbh, with Erdogan fucking up Turkish lira, the affordability of necessities became quite dire in Turkey. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I would have done the same in that sort of situation

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wohe
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no that mentality is messed up right there

#36
Glycoroldas
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yeah it's called survival

#42
justadude
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If you chose to stream, you don't live that bad to indirectly steal from other desperate people. No need to call it "survival"

#43
Glycoroldas
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or maybe that is the only viable option you have got as a 14 year old...

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wohe
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u are making baseless assumptions for no reason u don't know the living situation of the guy also deepmans is 16 but watch his streams he sure doesn't act like one.

#46
Glycoroldas
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And neither do you, and I cba to watch some random's stream, but the fact that somehow 300+ Turkish people are involved in this tell me everything I need to know

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wohe
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actually not, do u think americans that did match fixing to get skins did it bcz they need money ?????
i think what happened is when they got offered the deal they were like since everyone is doing it then why am i not and that is not me talking this is what panky said in his stream u can watch it

#51
wohe
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i could be wrong but i just think u trying to justify it is dumb

#52
Glycoroldas
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actually not, do u think americans that did match fixing to get skins did it bcz they need money ?????

yeah that's exactly why they did it. They were not receiving a salary from ibuypower and that's what motivated them towards crime: https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/1452091/ibp-wasnt-that-good#r20985038

Look, I'm not saying that any of this is right, I'm just stating the factors that might have led them to making those sort of decisions

#60
ireplytoidiots
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"desperate times call for desperate measures" yeah if you're homeless and on the verge of starving to death then you might steal food that's fair

if you're a boo hoo sad gamer that needs more money you get a fucking job lmao

#37
Not_alt_account
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Yes you are right. Just today I shared my id card for $25. Even a dollar is worth a lot these days.

But that doesn't make them innocent.

#41
Glycoroldas
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Did not say that they are not innocent, just stating that it's a bit too much to expect virtue and righteousness from those involved in current economic situation. Shit imagine you had a parent who requires prescription medication for heart arrhythmia of which price has increased 15x times in the past 2 years, with salaries not keeping up with inflation at all. The family proceeds to buy the medication because stopping it would mean death, but then there is no money left for food like bread and vegetables. You a 14 year old want to help your family and the only thing you are doing right now is being somewhat into games and twitch, you become aware of this opportunity that could significantly help your parents

and you mean to tell me that "no, I will not do this because it's unethical" when your family basically has to choose between medication or food? lol get the fuck outta here with this shit, of course people would do it, especially when it's fucking silly twitch owned by a megacorporation at the end of the day

#47
wohe
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i think ur over thinking this mainly bcz the scam stareted nearly 2 years ago and dont tell 2 years ago it was the prices were 15x and if someone had that kind of problem i think he would come out and say this to get people's support

#49
Glycoroldas
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Okay, I might be, but around 300 Turkish people doing this does stand out and these kind of numbers do require a systemic explanation.

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Vexlic
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You can forgive any criminal with that mentality

#48
wohe
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right !!!!??

#69
AltonBu03
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Less about forgiveness, more about empathy. They are different things. The things they did are still wrong and they should be punished accordingly.

#56
gtngodyorukingdestruction
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I went to research how the economic situation of Turkey and fucking, you are worse than Brazil. The conversion of Turkish Lira to USD is 7:1 and the Conversion of Euro is 11.13:1. What the hell is going on in there?

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Glycoroldas
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Just "democracy basically means - government for the people, of the people, by the people, but the people are retarded..." being at play here. Turkish electorate for some reason decided that Erdogan is a very good guy to run the country for close to two decades now, during which he succeeded in Turkey's political isolation and successfully getting away with nepotism by putting his daughter's husband as a Central Bank governor who caused severe lira's downfall. I guess the electorate does love the dick swinging rhetoric of "turkey world superpower but being kept down by bad usa & co"

#64
gtngodyorukingdestruction
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I understood perfectly, it is the same thing that happens in Brazil 121 years ago only that we never came to break completely by the economic strength of the country that even in shit is still very strong. It's very sad to have good countries being ruled by stupid people elected by stupid people.

#57
ait8k
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thats crazeeee

#58
Mustafa
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bruhh

#62
ritdro2211
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holy fuck
hope these guys get the punishment they deserve

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