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Icebox B Site Plant

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#1
JustHunter

So ive been seeing this a lot in pro play and especially in my ranked matches. Its a sage wall that goes towards the site ropes instead of going across or horizontally towards yellow box. Basically the SEN wall that they kept using in the game earlier.
I was thinking of strats to stop the wall from being broken which would probably involve some nades or anyform of pressure towards the opponents right as the wall is going up. So I rewatched FNC v FPX to see what FNC were doing whenever they went to plant on B and I saw that they utilized the wall towards yellow that blocks off the snowman sightline towards B main. So the fact that the best Icebox team knows that the straight wall towards site is a bad one and instead use the horizontal wall yet there are so many teams in the VCT all over the world that still use a terrible wall that easily gets broken and doesnt really benefit the planter in anyway since they can be seen from both snowman and top site even IF the wall isnt broken just is beyond me.
So I wanted to ask why tf do ppl still use that stupid wall instead of using the one that clearly is far more beneficial and still provides an easy plant even if one of the blocks are broken. I really dont see any benefits from the wall SEN was using and honestly it just makes everything that much harder

#2
SleepyBear
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to long I didn't read it

#3
TipTop
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?

#4
bayupermanay
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I ain't reading all that, I'm happy for you tough, or sorry that happened

#5
m11lan
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First rope wall more for fast exucute plan, because every pro player using sage not really sage main, its hard to perfect tilt wall toward yellow

Second rope wall cut support from backsite / orange and stop possible shock bolt or snake bite

Third with rope wall give attacker site controll and more flexible when ur plan f up, u can play or plant for top site/kitchen or back site/ snowman

Last thing, right now under top site are one of the best spot for B plant, u can play post plant from yellow and mid/orange

And im only iron none my word valid

#6
minte
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hm yes i agree indeed good sir yes

#7
Desperado_o
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Yea i think mainly it is a bit difficult to wall like FNC does.. it feels easier and quicker to just wall horizontally.. The vertical wall could be utilized for wall boosting and peeking when someone tries to break it. But the FNC wall does seem a lot better..

#8
Sk00d
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that was exactly what i was wondering yesterday. it's fucked up but so many pro teams are trying to just overcomplicate their icebox playbook when in reality it's the simplest map in the game.

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ShibaInu
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Bro, too long

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