Shahzam hate | VLR.gg

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Shownu

I pray for Sentinels downfall but I can also be objective when it comes to these things. Shahzam is the IGL of the team and if you didn't know, Sinatraa was the Sova player on Sentinels before TenZ was brought in. Shahzam has played Jett and is mechanically very skilled at it, some would say Shahzam is a better Jett than TenZ because his gamesense and aim combined is just better than mostly raw aim of Tenz. Streaming a few days before matches isin't a big deal. F0rsaken streamed during Iceland in the night and played matches the next day.

TLDR: Shahzam is forced to change his role and be a team player yet he is trying his best. Shahzam streams but puts more effort than the rest while the others stream and still put less effort in scrims.

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tldr is almost the same size of the text lol

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Shownu

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Have to make it extra clear as many struggle with reading comprehension in vlr.gg

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inlucid

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understandable

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thanatos11

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Fortnite IGL poach >> ratzam

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Elso

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Facts, but I just want to see Shahzam learning Chamber because it just makes huge hole in the team playing Sova on every map when not needed.

he plays breach on 1 map sometimes

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Shownu

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TenZ should be learning Chamber. Yay plays more Chamber than Jett now and it brought them Iceland win

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Elso

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True, but seems unlikely, because nothing changes, I've also always wanted Tenz on Chamber since he used it a little in ranked and liked the op, so it felt like a agent for him to play but never happened

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TenZ is a trash player. Only Jett Jett Jett and only plays Raze when he sucks.

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shahzam is by far the best oper on the team, he should be the person playing chamber on a majority of the maps bc of his potential for multi-kill rounds with that ult

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Shownu

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TenZ will do better to take fights with his aim and get out creating advantages while Shahzam can play what he likes on the other side.

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I mean I agree, but before shazam "fully" stepped down from the jett role we saw how dominant he was on the jett and the op. He might not have that dash but the tp is just as effective

Like I get why dapr is playing the sentinel role so hes gonna play the chamber, i just feel like anyone else on the team would have more potential with the chamber

like with faze, dicey sat them down a lot of the rounds on chamber i think he had the most kills in the entire series could be wrong, but still i feel like in the right hands on sentinels, whoever that chamber is could be such a huge boost.

still need a coach though, i dont think they would have another iceland type run until they get that coach and i have been a sentinels coach since first strike

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I also would like to add that Tenz should start working on a map with Yoru, because that guy likes to not clear some areas and die with his knives out or just looking lost and not getting it cleared by util from tms.

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Lol he’s been playing sova for a year now no excuses there

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Shownu

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Tenz been playing Jett since beta and still can't impact on another agent

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Never said Tenz was better bro

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Shownu

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Shahzam is the last person that needs to be blamed. It was his team and he was the duelist, now for Tenz he gave it up and is trying to fit in Sova.

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wait, so a team failing is a duelists job for not hard carrying, but not the igl's job who should be managing his team and directing them :/

His sova isn't even the main issue. It's the two opers lack of moving onto chamber. They put sick, a great flex on smoke. Dapr who isn't an overly aggressive player on chamber, and then got kenpeki for flex.

the fact that neither shahz nor TenZ is willing to go to chamber, despite the majority of Jett mains swapping over to chamber. Their stubbornness is their main fault, and the prime person responsible for that is shahz as the team captain.

Do I think they're a bad team, no shot. They're still a contender for top5 in Na. Their consistancy is an issue as it relies off tenz dropping 25+. It's unfortunate situation they're in. Two players who're top tier with the op, but are stuck in their ways, while everyone else is adapting around them.

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well said

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Marty

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This doesnt make sense. If he plays jett since beta then its obvious he's good on jett, if he hasnt played any other agents since beta then why would he be good on them?

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Shownu

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If you play 1 agent since the release of the game after multiple new agent releases then its a massive problem in professional play.

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TheFuzzzyBear

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especially when agent bans start, tenz will be forced onto other roles

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Marty

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this is also dumb because why would tenz their star jett duelist op, play a new agent that isnt part of his role? And it's extra dumb because jett is/was the best duelist and the must pick for practically every map. No way youre trying to blame tenz when he's the sole reason why sen even managed to do something against faze. But yeah I agree with tenz needing to flex especially now with the nerfs

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im not blaming him bc hes been sensatinoal for SEN since he joined, he just needs to learn a couple other agents to play in pro play. Like i think he would be a great neon where he could just run on site and aim duel anyone he sees.

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pewpew

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people downvoting like it isn't true.

TenZ fans are blind as fuck LMAOOOO

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Elso

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Tenz has to get better on Raze, and maybe even Neon or Yoru, because sometimes he just isn't performing on the knives as he used to

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Shownu

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Laughable how they can't mentally fathom why it is such a big problem to keep playing the same agent over and over again disregarding team comps and meta.

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RickyIndian

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his igling and his overall outlook on the game isn't as good as it was

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Shownu

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The team hasn't been good collectively.

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virtz

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The introduction of structural play was introduced by gambit, now teams are adapting. Before that, there's no such thing as good read by sentinels other than their firepower is so good.

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SaltyMcNulty

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He got bad reads on FaZe the whole series! Wtf you blabbering about? No one argues SEN lost bc of Shahz being bad on sova!

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imperfecto

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imo the hate comes from the aura sentinels have and im talking about the org. their social media team doesnt do them justice by painting them as the villain of NA compared to other orgs. it slowly builds people to root against sentinels. but at the same time its what gives them so much popularity in the valorant scene. Its a tough spot.

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APAC_jimmy

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Shaz only cares about his twitch subscribers and public perception. F0rsaken is a demon and can afford to stream sometimes because he still puts up results

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Shownu

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You've just described every streamer out there. Tarik wouldn't be doinf Valorant if he didn't get big so quickly.

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Marty

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difference is shazam is supposed to be a pro player for a top team.

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Shownu

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He was a streamer turned pro player not the other way around. He still puts the most effort even though he can just turn to full time streaming and chill.

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NG1nS

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you don't understand the hate then brother. No one is hating on his mechanical skills or even his igling it's the fact that they haven't picked up a coach and the fact that he defends his streaming career and values it more and doesn't scrim and doesn't bootcamp and still shamelessly acts superior as if he knows everything abouy how a team operates when he's getting shat on for almost a year now with little to no improvement
his decisions are killing the team

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pewpew

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so...Shahz is the only one that can decide on that? Not like if Shahz denied all the requests from boot camping or scrimming bruh. The whole team has to make an effort.

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NG1nS

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he is literally defending himself on stream saying they are looking for the perfect fit of a couch and always saying streaming doesn't affect their scrim schedule so pls don't try to make this anyone else's fault the man stands for what he's doing and he admitted to that on stream don't try defending him with baseless information
do you really think a fuxking org doesn't want the team to bootcamp????

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If he’s streaming, and refusing to get a coach. He’s trolling g

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hiei

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money>>>>winning

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Cresp

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i think its just shahzam has always been known as a jackass and even though i actually like sen hes just an actual rat and professional instigator. i still like all of sen i think they can still get good they just actually need to work on synergy.

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GLHF

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Shazam deserves all the hates It's due to him trashtalking pro players and teams.. And his shitty personality supported by his stupid argument..
Don't ge me wrong as a player and Igl he is very good.. As a person the hates toward him is justified

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virtz

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IGLing very good? Bruh they just play for picks every round or they either rush the site brainlessly with no coordination other than their aim lulw.

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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This ain't it chief

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Netero

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"Streaming a few times isn't a big deal" you mean 8 hours minimum everyday? And you're on actual Crack if you think putting Shahz on IGL Jett fixes their problems when he had a 0% heads hot percentage game on Chamber.

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he hasn't been able to fix very glaring issues in his teams composition and synergy. i don't think hes a bad player + hes a serviceable sova, but you really need to be more flexible in order to succeed. this applies to tenz too.