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Fnatic overrated?

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#1
SamBR

Or NIP underrated?

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I feel bad for the team in lowers who will have to face Derke

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COCAINELORD187
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dude they are playing with 2 subs u complete clown

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Caskilitonnotilik
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No derke no winn

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trembolonaRage
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Only good emea teams are fpx and gmb

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edelhose1337
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EU nip was better ngl.

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Morettii
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fnatic playing with 2 subs + no time to practice enough, anyways nip looking nice

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kristof
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with braveAF and derke this wouldve been a 26-0 for fnc

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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#2]

I feel bad for the team in lowers who will have to face Derke

derke will come back in the playoffs, no?

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wohe
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BRUH MAX BR FAN IQ

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delusional_sentinels_fan1
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rikkelme__ [#9]

derke will come back in the playoffs, no?

I think he might be able to come back before and they should still have no problem beating zeta

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Shownu
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Derke will feast in the lowers. Just wait.

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Glycoroldas
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Fnatic is going to Brazil axaxaxaxa

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edelhose1337 [#6]

EU nip was better ngl.

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COCAINELORD187 [#3]

dude they are playing with 2 subs u complete clown

why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

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wohe
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matimaluco [#15]

why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

how could u be so dumb ? is the real question

#17
queueK
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matimaluco [#15]

why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

bad translation? There's nothing in the message that is related to underestimating the stand-ins.

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edelhose1337 [#6]

EU nip was better ngl.

didn't they get grouped at redbull homegrounds?

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Blaku
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brazil intelligence really shines today

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wohe
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andrewdamf [#14]

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true chiwawa would clap these guys

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wohe
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davmg [#18]

didn't they get grouped at redbull homegrounds?

by emea sure by br never kkkkkkkkkkkk

#22
gkd00m
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Without arguably their two best players and using two stand ins that don't have long term chemistry with the team nor each other? Idk about that one.

#23
davmg
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wohe [#21]

by emea sure by br never kkkkkkkkkkkk

ok so how exactly would they qualify for masters LOL

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andrewdamf
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wohe [#20]

true chiwawa would clap these guys

chiwawa cant even win against surreal

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wohe
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davmg [#23]

ok so how exactly would they qualify for masters LOL

yeah that's why nip went to the easier region kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk br fans be like

ok so how exactly would they qualify for masters LOL

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mauge67
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matimaluco [#15]

why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

wdym "underestimating",why are you overestimating them

#27
wohe
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andrewdamf [#24]

chiwawa cant even win against surreal

surreal would clap br cheeks tho

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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#11]

I think he might be able to come back before and they should still have no problem beating zeta

boaster said that he wouldn't be available before playoffs. he's in iceland but if they don't qualify into playoffs he would go back without playing a match.

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240hz_Wood
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COCAINELORD187 [#3]

dude they are playing with 2 subs u complete clown

Honestly, that sucks, but let's not forget that V1 played with a stand-in and still did pretty well. NA made no excuses, and wound up beating TL and CR, losing to NUTURN and Fnatic.

On top of this, let's not forget that EMEA constantly talks about how they're worlds ahead of every region, and constantly call BR "Bronzil".

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davmg
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wohe [#25]

yeah that's why nip went to the easier region kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk br fans be like

ok so how exactly would they qualify for masters LOL

easier region just clapped FNC's cheeks on their own map pick...
with fearoth and h1ber carrying

#31
Velurom
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matimaluco [#15]

why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

Are you actually this dense or are you just baiting?

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wohe
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davmg [#30]

easier region just clapped FNC's cheeks on their own map pick...
with fearoth and h1ber carrying

yeah that's not how val works, that's why u guys all aim no brain

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wohe [#32]

yeah that's not how val works, that's why u guys all aim no brain

all aim no brain is when you beat fnatic when they're being carried by stand-ins LOL

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vern
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240hz_Wood [#29]

Honestly, that sucks, but let's not forget that V1 played with a stand-in and still did pretty well. NA made no excuses, and wound up beating TL and CR, losing to NUTURN and Fnatic.

On top of this, let's not forget that EMEA constantly talks about how they're worlds ahead of every region, and constantly call BR "Bronzil".

1 stand-in vs 2 stand-ins. Fanatics best player and possibly one of the best EU Duelists vs v1s idk whoever. Very hard to make a comparision.

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PunisherXPR
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NIP kinda underrated + Fnatic with 2 subs.

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COCAINELORD187
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240hz_Wood [#29]

Honestly, that sucks, but let's not forget that V1 played with a stand-in and still did pretty well. NA made no excuses, and wound up beating TL and CR, losing to NUTURN and Fnatic.

On top of this, let's not forget that EMEA constantly talks about how they're worlds ahead of every region, and constantly call BR "Bronzil".

curb ur cringe man

#37
dejikke
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wohe [#10]

BRUH MAX BR FAN IQ

conta bait do krl vsf

#38
wohe
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dejikke [#37]

conta bait do krl vsf

english brooo english can u read ?

#39
dudeeee
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Fnatic cant win when they dont have a guy whos gonna kill 2 players every round for them lul

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reylarc
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argueable, first nip is very good form gameplay so far i dunno its bcs FNC dont have derke there, but if its true FNC prove us they are the worst balance team in valorant ever. Miss 1 player and made them like tier 3 team.
If u talk about brave i dont think he is better than this sub

#41
artz
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Nip underrated

#42
240hz_Wood
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vern [#34]

1 stand-in vs 2 stand-ins. Fanatics best player and possibly one of the best EU Duelists vs v1s idk whoever. Very hard to make a comparision.

I agree with 2 stand-ins vs 1 being a bigger impact, but EMEA always call them Bronzil and now EMEA fans are eating their words.

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dejikke
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wohe [#38]

english brooo english can u read ?

foi mal mano nem vi

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DiegoMocu
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240hz_Wood [#29]

Honestly, that sucks, but let's not forget that V1 played with a stand-in and still did pretty well. NA made no excuses, and wound up beating TL and CR, losing to NUTURN and Fnatic.

On top of this, let's not forget that EMEA constantly talks about how they're worlds ahead of every region, and constantly call BR "Bronzil".

at that moment Sentinels could win without a coach, no way to compare these situations

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idkbro
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fnatic dont have their 2 best players and are a super gimmicky team, they cant play simple/fundamental valorant like teams like gambit, gambit can win a tournament without having nothing innovative in terms of utlity because their fundamentals are so good, fnatic cant, they just play boaster dogshit playstyle that only works early in tournaments when no1 knows their gimmicks, then they get destroyed like champions/emea playoffs

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idkbro
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idkbro [#45]

fnatic dont have their 2 best players and are a super gimmicky team, they cant play simple/fundamental valorant like teams like gambit, gambit can win a tournament without having nothing innovative in terms of utlity because their fundamentals are so good, fnatic cant, they just play boaster dogshit playstyle that only works early in tournaments when no1 knows their gimmicks, then they get destroyed like champions/emea playoffs

NiP is a good team but the way the played today it was just a ranked game and exploiting that fnatic didnt have protocols on point so they struggled to adapt/react to the aggression (also they couldnt win a fight for some reason), I wouldnt expect NiP to beat top teams in the tournament or Fnatic in lowers if they have Derke back

#47
Siegfried
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Fnc have 2 stand-ins so why brother to even play the match. Just surrender or it’s gonna be embarrassing like it was!

#48
SamBR
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idkbro [#45]

fnatic dont have their 2 best players and are a super gimmicky team, they cant play simple/fundamental valorant like teams like gambit, gambit can win a tournament without having nothing innovative in terms of utlity because their fundamentals are so good, fnatic cant, they just play boaster dogshit playstyle that only works early in tournaments when no1 knows their gimmicks, then they get destroyed like champions/emea playoffs

According to 90% of this forum EMEA is a major (and best) region while Brazil is a Sh*t region, so 2 subs should not change the result of the match.
Stop with that, NIP is underrated and played well, they deserved the win.

Can't wait to watch Loud playing against the best

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yungbasel
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matimaluco [#15]

why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

You're getting alot of unnecessary hate, but I'll break it down for you.

Fnatic only had 7 or 8 days to prep with these subs. The problem is that when you don't have your regular core, everyone plays differently and alot of previous preparation goes out the window.

It's not that the subs are bad players, they obviously know how to shoot. But it's the tactics and playstyle and tendancies that get affected.

Some people call this Copium, but they're deluded if they think Chemistry isn't important.

#50
ChimiChimiChanga
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Ofc they are. They even lost to FPX which had a Boomer Jett.

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egg80085
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ShyftNot1 [#28]

boaster said that he wouldn't be available before playoffs. he's in iceland but if they don't qualify into playoffs he would go back without playing a match.

sadge, back to top 21 he goes

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idkbro
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SamBR [#48]

According to 90% of this forum EMEA is a major (and best) region while Brazil is a Sh*t region, so 2 subs should not change the result of the match.
Stop with that, NIP is underrated and played well, they deserved the win.

Can't wait to watch Loud playing against the best

I agree, Brazil is really underrated in vlr, you guys were just unlucky af in champions but I think if Fnatic had both derke and brave it would have been a quick 2-0 and if they had only Derke it would have been a comfortable win for fnatic still, NiP did nothing amazing, just exploited the lack of chemistry playing aggressively which is smart but the real test in against proper teams that have their full lineup

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SamBR
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idkbro [#52]

I agree, Brazil is really underrated in vlr, you guys were just unlucky af in champions but I think if Fnatic had both derke and brave it would have been a quick 2-0 and if they had only Derke it would have been a comfortable win for fnatic still, NiP did nothing amazing, just exploited the lack of chemistry playing aggressively which is smart but the real test in against proper teams that have their full lineup

I respect your opinion, but I still thinking NIP would win.
Btw Fanatic is not dead yet, they can win it all, let's just see what gonna happen in the match NIP x DRX
Fnatic and NIP can play again in the group fase yet.

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