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#1
nikoko07

rito giving a free slot to "the best team in japan" while teams like c9, gambit, v1, guild, liquid, acend have to see it from home LOL

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lorenzopajaroFC
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You know what an “international” competition means right?

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harriman
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They should have qualified then

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nikoko07
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lorenzopajaroFC [#2]

You know what an “international” competition means right?

means you have the best teams around the world competing, and zeta is not one of them

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nikoko07
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harriman [#3]

They should have qualified then

2 and 3 spots lol

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Giannero
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Liquid have to see it from home?

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delusional_sentinels_fan1
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Gambit won 1 series in their qualifiers and acend didn't even make closed, no chance they deserve to be there.

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nikoko07 [#5]

2 and 3 spots lol

And?

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nikoko07
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Giannero [#6]

Liquid have to see it from home?

i mean, if fpx could play they would

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Metal
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Giannero [#6]

Liquid have to see it from home?

They would have to if FPX visa issues wasn't a thing

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nikoko07
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harriman [#8]

And?

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#12
lorenzopajaroFC
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nikoko07 [#4]

means you have the best teams around the world competing, and zeta is not one of them

Mate I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again

If you only want to watch EMEA teams, go watch the qualifiers

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idkbro
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they dont care about competition, they just want to secure the viewership from different parts of the world not have the best quality gameplay and best teams in the world in the event, so sad, its almost like these events are a show for them having them once every 3 years and most teams are not even good

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Metal [#10]

They would have to if FPX visa issues wasn't a thing

ye but it didn't happen, so pog for us ig

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nikoko07
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lorenzopajaroFC [#12]

Mate I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again

If you only want to watch EMEA teams, go watch the qualifiers

i dont want to watch them, i want to watch entertaining matches. Watching a team like zeta is boring af

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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#7]

Gambit won 1 series in their qualifiers and acend didn't even make closed, no chance they deserve to be there.

gambit were 0.02 seconds away from making it, they deserved to be here, if these dogshit teams are here so should gambit, they would be tournament favourites

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lorenzopajaroFC [#12]

Mate I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again

If you only want to watch EMEA teams, go watch the qualifiers

he didnt say he wants to watch only EMEA teams, there are top teams that are not from EMEA but giving Japan a slot is a joke, its a gamble tho, maybe they are good in 2-3 years, the game is popular so maybe some japanese wonderkids come up

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idkbro [#16]

gambit were 0.02 seconds away from making it, they deserved to be here, if these dogshit teams are here so should gambit, they would be tournament favourites

because the whole world shouldn't have to care about EMEA. Why should people care about watching a region they have no relationship with? Would you still watch Valorant if your region had zero representation?

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idkbro [#16]

gambit were 0.02 seconds away from making it, they deserved to be here, if these dogshit teams are here so should gambit, they would be tournament favourites

Could be 0.001 seconds and I still wouldn't care. They had a million chances to win and they didn't. They don't deserve to be at masters.

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idkbro
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archetype [#18]

because the whole world shouldn't have to care about EMEA. Why should people care about watching a region they have no relationship with? Would you still watch Valorant if your region had zero representation?

yes, I watch for quality of gameplay and I strive for sporting excelence, if the best teams are from outiside EMEA I would still watch, we are not the same, you watch your national teams/favourites teams so you are a casual viewer, I watch because I love the competitive aspect of the game and want to watch the best teams idc where they are from

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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#19]

Could be 0.001 seconds and I still wouldn't care. They had a million chances to win and they didn't. They don't deserve to be at masters.

they do, yours is a stupid argument, they are good to be here, all EMEA playoffs teams deserve to be here, any would shit on minor region teams

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idkbro [#17]

he didnt say he wants to watch only EMEA teams, there are top teams that are not from EMEA but giving Japan a slot is a joke, its a gamble tho, maybe they are good in 2-3 years, the game is popular so maybe some japanese wonderkids come up

thats just stupid the whole premise of international is to have the best of international teams compete against each other. you cant just not give them a slot because they suck against other regions lmao.

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dude ppl complain about this with league too and why riot have wildcard regions because for the most part the teams aren't as good. Its part of international competition, you get representation around the world. ppl so weird to complain and only want Na/Eu only tourny or something.

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Imagine a World Cup only with EU and SA teams mehhh
All best teams from all regions deserves to participate, I love what Riot is doing.
i'm 100% sure that Japan scenario will be strong one day.

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idkbro
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kevshare [#22]

thats just stupid the whole premise of international is to have the best of international teams compete against each other. you cant just not give them a slot because they suck against other regions lmao.

I dont agree, imo the premise of international events is have the best teams of the world, if 90% of top teams were from Europe like in CSGO, thats just how it is, you can give minor regions representation while not underrepresenting EMEA like this, if Japan has 1 slot, why not also MENA? Doesnt Arabia and North African teams deserve a slot too if Japan is there?

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SamBR [#24]

Imagine a World Cup only with EU and SA teams mehhh
All best teams from all regions deserves to participate, I love what Riot is doing.
i'm 100% sure that Japan scenario will be strong one day.

im not saying to dont give them slots, but for example in the world cup you have all the good teams, germany, spain, england, brazil, argentina, netherlands, france, belgium, portugal, uruguay. And minor regions have their chance, without affecting major regions

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nikoko07 [#26]

im not saying to dont give them slots, but for example in the world cup you have all the good teams, germany, spain, england, brazil, argentina, netherlands, france, belgium, portugal, uruguay. And minor regions have their chance, without affecting major regions

I feel like you were offesive saying "free slot" to Japan.
Btw in a international event will always be Countries/Regions much better than anothers.
Just accept the fact that you will never watch a championshiop where all teams have a chance to win.

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idkbro [#20]

yes, I watch for quality of gameplay and I strive for sporting excelence, if the best teams are from outiside EMEA I would still watch, we are not the same, you watch your national teams/favourites teams so you are a casual viewer, I watch because I love the competitive aspect of the game and want to watch the best teams idc where they are from

Don't get me wrong lol, I still watch games like CSGO even though no East Asian team is relevant in the top-tier scene. I understand the idea of striving for competitive excellence, but if you know anything about what kind of game Valorant is gearing itself to be you would understand why Riot adopted my line of reasoning instead of yours.

Look at League of Legends compared to DOTA 2.

There's no point in having "International" competition if you strive for excellence only; Riot knows this, and that's why League of Legends is the biggest esport in the world while DOTA 2 and CSGO are not.

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redlight
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nikoko07 [#26]

im not saying to dont give them slots, but for example in the world cup you have all the good teams, germany, spain, england, brazil, argentina, netherlands, france, belgium, portugal, uruguay. And minor regions have their chance, without affecting major regions

the only difference is that EVERY team except the host nation has to go through open qualifiers

if teams don't make it, that's on them. Look at Italy this year: won Euros but didn't make World cup.

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nikoko07 [#4]

means you have the best teams around the world competing, and zeta is not one of them

Yeah, and you ever watch the Olympics. There are always regions leagues behind others in certain sports, but that doesn't mean you cut them from international competition

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CanadianLegend
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where is this man now lmfao…

#32
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nikoko07 [#15]

i dont want to watch them, i want to watch entertaining matches. Watching a team like zeta is boring af

lol 2-0

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Ashh
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nikoko07 [#15]

i dont want to watch them, i want to watch entertaining matches. Watching a team like zeta is boring af

aged so fucking fast, zeta most hyped team in tourney

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inlucid
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smartest g2 fan

#35
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idkbro [#17]

he didnt say he wants to watch only EMEA teams, there are top teams that are not from EMEA but giving Japan a slot is a joke, its a gamble tho, maybe they are good in 2-3 years, the game is popular so maybe some japanese wonderkids come up

So hey

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idkbro [#21]

they do, yours is a stupid argument, they are good to be here, all EMEA playoffs teams deserve to be here, any would shit on minor region teams

🤡

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idkbro [#13]

they dont care about competition, they just want to secure the viewership from different parts of the world not have the best quality gameplay and best teams in the world in the event, so sad, its almost like these events are a show for them having them once every 3 years and most teams are not even good

🤡

#38
yaiima0
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this aged well...

#39
dejikke
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nikoko07 [#4]

means you have the best teams around the world competing, and zeta is not one of them

internacional, means existing, occurring, or carried on between two or more nations. and zeta is good, they evolved during the tournament

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Skyss
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G2 fans omegaul

#41
dejikke
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nikoko07 [#26]

im not saying to dont give them slots, but for example in the world cup you have all the good teams, germany, spain, england, brazil, argentina, netherlands, france, belgium, portugal, uruguay. And minor regions have their chance, without affecting major regions

what about italy?

#42
Kowloon1st
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Next dont give slot to G2 only

#43
m1kah
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Bro been mad quiet since the L Zeta handed to G2

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