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i'm so confused (vct emea)

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#1
minte

someone please explain all possible outcomes and qualifications to playoffs from group A. i'm about to go insane trying to figure it out

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if NAVI win vs FPX, there is a 3 way, 3-2, tie between LIQUID, NAVI, and FPX.

The tiebreaker is rounds, and thus NAVI and FPX qualify.

(assuming, M3C win against LDN.)

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queueK [#2]

if NAVI win vs FPX, there is a 3 way, 3-2, tie between LIQUID, NAVI, and FPX.

The tiebreaker is rounds, and thus NAVI and FPX qualify.

(assuming, M3C win against LDN.)

in the case that:

NAVI wins against FPX
LDN wins against M3C

There will be a 5 way 3-2 tie. There is once again a round difference tiebreaker - FPX and M3C should be able to qualify because they already have a ton of rounds.

The third and final team to qualify is one of either NAVI or LDN, since LIQUID is already negative.

(technically there is a world where they win all their maps 13-11 or something and thus cause LIQUID to qualify, but that seems unlikely.)

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queueK [#2]

if NAVI win vs FPX, there is a 3 way, 3-2, tie between LIQUID, NAVI, and FPX.

The tiebreaker is rounds, and thus NAVI and FPX qualify.

(assuming, M3C win against LDN.)

i thought the tiebreaker was h2h?

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the tiebreaker is h2h games

#6
queueK
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zyzyck [#4]

i thought the tiebreaker was h2h?

only when there are two teams

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queueK [#6]

only when there are two teams

ah makes sense, its looking like this could be another close game maybe liquid will get lucky lol

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Navi getting smashed on Breeze lessgo

#9
yungbasel
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Liquid fans on suicide watch rn

#10
worstbrimplayer
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Albala [#5]

the tiebreaker is h2h games

Isn’t that only if there is a two way tie??

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Tiebreakers
In the event that two or more Teams are tied in the standings at the conclusion of the Regular Season, the tie will be broken by the following criteria:
Head-to-head match score
Head-to-head map differential
Head-to-head round differential
Overall map differential
Overall round differential

If after this the Teams are still tied, a new match will be played between the tied teams. Higher seeding will be determined by a coin toss.

Considering the rules, the standings will be

NAVI 2-0 FPX: M3C NAVI FPX
NAVI 2-1 FPX: M3C FPX NAVI
NAVI lose and M3C wins LDN: FPX M3C TL
NAVI lose and LDN 2-1 M3C: FPX M3C TL

NAVI lose and LDN 2-0 M3C:
Match rounds diff of LDN - M3C:

  • less than 8: FPX M3C TL
  • 8: FPX M3C LDN
  • 9-10: FPX LDN M3C
  • more than 10: FPX LDN TL
#12
ValdemieGC
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queueK [#3]

in the case that:

NAVI wins against FPX
LDN wins against M3C

There will be a 5 way 3-2 tie. There is once again a round difference tiebreaker - FPX and M3C should be able to qualify because they already have a ton of rounds.

The third and final team to qualify is one of either NAVI or LDN, since LIQUID is already negative.

(technically there is a world where they win all their maps 13-11 or something and thus cause LIQUID to qualify, but that seems unlikely.)

Except Round differential isn't the tiebreaker. Check VCT rulebook.

It is the same for 2 team ties or more. It is still head to head score between every tied team. If they are still tied, then map differential between the tied teams. If not, dound differential between tied teams.

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ValdemieGC [#12]

Except Round differential isn't the tiebreaker. Check VCT rulebook.

It is the same for 2 team ties or more. It is still head to head score between every tied team. If they are still tied, then map differential between the tied teams. If not, dound differential between tied teams.

According to the Official EMEA VCT 2022 Rules (page 7)

Tiebreakers
In the event that two or more Teams are tied in the standings at the conclusion of the Regular Season, the tie will be broken by the following criteria:
Head-to-head match score
Head-to-head map differential
Head-to-head round differential
Overall map differential
Overall round differential

If after this the Teams are still tied, a new match will be played between the tied teams. Higher seeding will be determined by a coin toss.

Tiebreakers will not be played if their outcome will not have any competitive implications. i.e. Advancing to the VCT playoffs or promotion tournament. Prize money for teams tied in this scenario will be combined and split equally between both teams.

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