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#1
GENZAMAN1235

I didn't thought I would make This much threads about vlt but here we are ge made it to the Singapore they did the shit in such no time
And here vlt had over 1 week but they didn't do any of thing and the excuse the manager said our players are not used to Singapore tables💀

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Supr3meGucci
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They are playing from Chennai now?

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Noobita
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Supr3meGucci [#2]

They are playing from Chennai now?

Yes

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GENZAMAN1235
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Supr3meGucci [#2]

They are playing from Chennai now?

Yup

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Grumsy
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Its their decision they are comfortable there , why do you have a problem ?

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GENZAMAN1235
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Grumsy [#5]

Its their decision they are comfortable there , why do you have a problem ?

I didn't said it's a wrong decision i said they have a lot of time they could have gone for a better option my dear

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Noobita
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Vlt owner saved money to buy raka,simple

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Grumsy
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GENZAMAN1235 [#6]

I didn't said it's a wrong decision i said they have a lot of time they could have gone for a better option my dear

Ah ok , I think they aldready set it up in chennai thats why maybe they thought of not going .

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GENZAMAN1235
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Noobita [#7]

Vlt owner saved money to buy raka,simple

Kekw dropped 13 people in 2 weeks for a cc although he is the biggest but 13 people lost their job because of 1 sadge

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GENZAMAN1235
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Grumsy [#8]

Ah ok , I think they aldready set it up in chennai thats why maybe they thought of not going .

Yup we can say only things they are the people that will decide what they have to do

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wizardbot
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Noobita [#7]

Vlt owner saved money to buy raka,simple

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

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GENZAMAN1235
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wizardbot [#11]

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

Wait what??

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Grumsy
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wizardbot [#11]

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

in India they do mr wizardman

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6vine
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wizardbot [#11]

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

They do

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RG
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wizardbot [#11]

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

except s8ul orgs do pay ccs

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Rainyy
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wizardbot [#11]

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

? then whats the point of being on the org

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Rainyy [#16]

? then whats the point of being on the org

Orgs bring exposure, opportunities and brand deals for their influencers. Content creators on the other hand help raise the brand of the org. Thats how it works in 2 top orgs in India : S8uL and Godlike both rich asf. Idk about the others maybe they get paid

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.

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RG [#15]

except s8ul orgs do pay ccs

Oh alright, Godlike dont btw. Idk about the others

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GENZAMAN1235 [#9]

Kekw dropped 13 people in 2 weeks for a cc although he is the biggest but 13 people lost their job because of 1 sadge

13 people wtf ? Who did they drop ccs or players ?

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GENZAMAN1235
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h3at [#20]

13 people wtf ? Who did they drop ccs or players ?

2 rosters, their whole content team 1 cc and 1 graphic designer

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SnooTangerines
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GENZAMAN1235 [#6]

I didn't said it's a wrong decision i said they have a lot of time they could have gone for a better option my dear

In their opinion, the better decision is "getting used to playing on the new patch" and using the equipment they know is a better option than going to a new place and playing on rented computers, an update which you barely have any practice on and of course not used to chairs and table.

Anyways happy for both teams, both feel comfortable in what they are doing so IG no excuses this time.

PS - Apparently table and chairs matters a lot. Your sitting posture and the height at which you place your mouse is very relevant to your gameplay, at least in very high levels. Source - Trust me bro I play a game at very high levels that requires aim. (Not valorant)

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SnooTangerines
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wizardbot [#11]

Idk if you are memeing but orgs don't pay their CCs

VLT had salaried content creators.

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wait other than vlt asteria who else did they drop and why?

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ItsOnlyAGame
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SnooTangerines [#22]

In their opinion, the better decision is "getting used to playing on the new patch" and using the equipment they know is a better option than going to a new place and playing on rented computers, an update which you barely have any practice on and of course not used to chairs and table.

Anyways happy for both teams, both feel comfortable in what they are doing so IG no excuses this time.

PS - Apparently table and chairs matters a lot. Your sitting posture and the height at which you place your mouse is very relevant to your gameplay, at least in very high levels. Source - Trust me bro I play a game at very high levels that requires aim. (Not valorant)

the table chair argument is bogus, decent gaming chairs can be found everywhere for cheap and office chairs are also pretty good for the job. Spending more time working the new patch makes sense tho

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nalinx
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  • They didnt get PC’s before they shifted to Chennai
  • Rushi asked Anna if they want the PC’s in SG (When VLT was in chennai) Anna said No because the players were practicing and already shifted to Chennai
  • They want to practice more and not waste anytime on travelling and setting up ,which would cause them atleast 3 days of practice
  • They got the best possible internet and ping in Chennai (30ms-35ms)
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ItsOnlyAGame [#25]

the table chair argument is bogus, decent gaming chairs can be found everywhere for cheap and office chairs are also pretty good for the job. Spending more time working the new patch makes sense tho

Read postscript.

It does matter. Also, it's not just about "good" gaming chairs and tables. It's about familiarity.

Trust me, to experience this, you need to be pretty good in a game that involves mechanical skills. Valorant and CS are not even the best games to portray this. Rhythm games like osu! are much more apt.

Play in the normal posture and position you play and then shift your chair just 5-10cms outward and try to play again. There will be significant changes in consistency. You can still hit crazy flicks or shots, it's just the consistency with which you hit it reduces.

Of course, people in silver-immortals (valorant) won't feel a lot of difference. But in pro play, it does matter.

Although in this context it definitely is bogus because VLT matches do not start till a good week. It takes 3-4 days to get used to a new setup. Still, it seems they are not taking risks.

Ohh btw, if you think that who cares about such minute details, VLT certainly does. R2Ace definitely cares a lot about these things. VLT prefers only BenQ monitors, and whatnot.

Definitely differences in playstyle and preferences. VLT is filled with veterans and old CS players. GE has all very young players (mostly under 23) except Kappa. All this does matter to them at pro play level.

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Zephyros [#24]

wait other than vlt asteria who else did they drop and why?

their content lead, two bgmi players and graphic designer

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SnooTangerines [#27]

Read postscript.

It does matter. Also, it's not just about "good" gaming chairs and tables. It's about familiarity.

Trust me, to experience this, you need to be pretty good in a game that involves mechanical skills. Valorant and CS are not even the best games to portray this. Rhythm games like osu! are much more apt.

Play in the normal posture and position you play and then shift your chair just 5-10cms outward and try to play again. There will be significant changes in consistency. You can still hit crazy flicks or shots, it's just the consistency with which you hit it reduces.

Of course, people in silver-immortals (valorant) won't feel a lot of difference. But in pro play, it does matter.

Although in this context it definitely is bogus because VLT matches do not start till a good week. It takes 3-4 days to get used to a new setup. Still, it seems they are not taking risks.

Ohh btw, if you think that who cares about such minute details, VLT certainly does. R2Ace definitely cares a lot about these things. VLT prefers only BenQ monitors, and whatnot.

Definitely differences in playstyle and preferences. VLT is filled with veterans and old CS players. GE has all very young players (mostly under 23) except Kappa. All this does matter to them at pro play level.

TL;DR

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SnooTangerines
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Hidden_Name [#29]

TL;DR

Chairs and tables matter, if you are silver you won't notice it but at pro play it does matter if you even move your keyboard away for 5 cms.

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MilanTheMyth
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Tables? What?

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GENZAMAN1235
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MilanTheMyth [#31]

Tables? What?

He said they are not used to Singapore tables that will make players very bad

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GENZAMAN1235
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SnooTangerines [#30]

Chairs and tables matter, if you are silver you won't notice it but at pro play it does matter if you even move your keyboard away for 5 cms.

Yup but at lan table will not be same as the bootcamp then what will players do

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SnooTangerines [#30]

Chairs and tables matter, if you are silver you won't notice it but at pro play it does matter if you even move your keyboard away for 5 cms.

You're massively overstating the importance of it. Yeah it's important, but it's far from a be all and end all.

Pros in all fps titles are competing to play at LAN events where the only gear they're used to is their kB and mouse.

A player who can't perform because they don't have the chair and desk they're used to is not a good player.

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yungbasel
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Lol. That's like making it to Masters 1 and being like "wE'rE nOt uSeD tO tHe TaBlESs!". Nonsense. As long as the tables are good, that's not a valid excuse.

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GENZAMAN1235
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yungbasel [#35]

Lol. That's like making it to Masters 1 and being like "wE'rE nOt uSeD tO tHe TaBlESs!". Nonsense. As long as the tables are good, that's not a valid excuse.

KEKW that's what I'm saying

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GENZAMAN1235 [#32]

He said they are not used to Singapore tables that will make players very bad

lmao wtf

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RG [#28]

their content lead, two bgmi players and graphic designer

wtf why tho?

#39
GENZAMAN1235
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Zephyros [#37]

lmao wtf

Yup

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SnooTangerines
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GENZAMAN1235 [#33]

Yup but at lan table will not be same as the bootcamp then what will players do

All good tournaments actually allow teams to play on the LAN tables and chairs and get used to the environment. They may or may not even mock the lighting similar to the event.

I have been to one LAN game in Delhi before the tournament and yes, the teams were practising there.
As I said, it only takes a few days at max to get used to it though.

A dozen DMs in new conditions will bring you up to your 99% performance with used-to equipment.

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SnooTangerines
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yungbasel [#34]

You're massively overstating the importance of it. Yeah it's important, but it's far from a be all and end all.

Pros in all fps titles are competing to play at LAN events where the only gear they're used to is their kB and mouse.

A player who can't perform because they don't have the chair and desk they're used to is not a good player.

Of course, I am not saying it is the biggest factor but it's there. I am simply stating that it is VLT's opinion that moving to Chennai from Mumbai (gives you a ping reduction from 70m to 40ms) is good enough and they prefer to play on familiar equipment over going to Singapore for a further ping reduction to 3-5ms.

OP says that VLT cut corners by not going to Singapore.

GE's second set of players will land on Singapore on 10th and they have their first match on 11th. They definitely think that the ping advantage (70ms to 3-5ms) is better than playing on non-familiar equipment.

I should also add that it was quite risky for GE cause their visas were approved at the last minute. They also got very lucky with Bleed esports helping them out with PCs despite being competitors in the event.

GE took risks and VLT played it safe is all I am saying.

Read a reply I just made above.

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ILL
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Its jus a qualifying round for a group stage for qualifying to playoffs lmfao...if u cant breeze through the play ins team easily then u jus dont deserve to be in group stage..(.and if GE do qualify to group stage they willl have more than enough practice and adaptation time for group stage)
Basically if GE is actually good they should be qualifying to the group stage without any excuses...and if they dont....they need to jus accept their loss and get better.... especially by removing GoatppA

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ILL [#42]

Its jus a qualifying round for a group stage for qualifying to playoffs lmfao...if u cant breeze through the play ins team easily then u jus dont deserve to be in group stage..(.and if GE do qualify to group stage they willl have more than enough practice and adaptation time for group stage)
Basically if GE is actually good they should be qualifying to the group stage without any excuses...and if they dont....they need to jus accept their loss and get better.... especially by removing GoatppA

true

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SnooTangerines [#41]

Of course, I am not saying it is the biggest factor but it's there. I am simply stating that it is VLT's opinion that moving to Chennai from Mumbai (gives you a ping reduction from 70m to 40ms) is good enough and they prefer to play on familiar equipment over going to Singapore for a further ping reduction to 3-5ms.

OP says that VLT cut corners by not going to Singapore.

GE's second set of players will land on Singapore on 10th and they have their first match on 11th. They definitely think that the ping advantage (70ms to 3-5ms) is better than playing on non-familiar equipment.

I should also add that it was quite risky for GE cause their visas were approved at the last minute. They also got very lucky with Bleed esports helping them out with PCs despite being competitors in the event.

GE took risks and VLT played it safe is all I am saying.

Read a reply I just made above.

understood

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yungbasel [#35]

Lol. That's like making it to Masters 1 and being like "wE'rE nOt uSeD tO tHe TaBlESs!". Nonsense. As long as the tables are good, that's not a valid excuse.

Old X10 members said once at iceland that their hands were freezing. Since most of SEA countries have high temp. Even winter is just like 20-26 c in SEA but in iceland and berlin are about 0 c - minus temp. that's the reason they cant play that well but they didnt use this excuse to tell anyone why they lost. such a PMA

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yungbasel
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carl123 [#45]

Old X10 members said once at iceland that their hands were freezing. Since most of SEA countries have high temp. Even winter is just like 20-26 c in SEA but in iceland and berlin are about 0 c - minus temp. that's the reason they cant play that well but they didnt use this excuse to tell anyone why they lost. such a PMA

temperature and cold hands is a totally different thing to consider compared to tables and chairs. It's a way more valid reason tbh

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