Cn and apac

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Driver_stile
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Why do cn and apac teams always suck at champs ?

Like bro all year long apac dominate but at champs they just shit their pants. 4 Chinese teams lost 3 apac and 1 amea (to prx in a close fashion)

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well cn won a trophy that 1 time, but besides that... yeah champs is not for asia apparantly

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Driver_stile
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I mean not to say they don't deserve but planets aligned for them.
Ngl th deserve it the trophy more if you think bout it.

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ilyalover
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Only reason cn won because they were against an EMEA team

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Driver_stile
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U think 2024. Th wouldn't beat all other teams ? I lean your flag is literally the. Finals chokers

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not really, EDG were undefeated on 3 entire maps that tournament. When your map pool is that good, you deserve to win. EDG were from the upper bracket, EDG almost won bind and they were ahead throughout the entirety of abyss.

in no world did TH deserve the trophy more than EDG

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Driver_stile
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It was the neon meta thing i was refering to where kangkang was just. To good at neon

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im a changed woman but th did NOT deserve the trophy more.

#18
Driver_stile
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What does " im a changed women " have to do with anything? I really don't get it. And again. Its just imo.

#21
SerenaVLR
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ive rebranded to stop the cn glaze and the toxicity associated with my previous name and decided to become normal

#22
Driver_stile
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A normal bilibili fan can't exist

#24
SerenaVLR
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im anything but normal but im not actually a complete asshole like the wg420 persona was

#25
catNmouse
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what the hell happened to your previous posts??

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SerenaVLR
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i never had any previous posts they were a figment of your imagination

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I don't think that's fair to say, TH would have been deserved winners but EDG clutched up in the big moments, and that is why they won. They were just the better team on the day

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Lotus is the only map TL won at EMEA grandfinal and 2nd best map after Split, kinda bad to lose vs PRX who are struggling on Lotus for half a year

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maybe we're just Masters enjoyers

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I like that explanation. I mean if you get 2 master whats 1 champs ? ( Only thing is prx gotta stop choking in finals to get the 2nd master

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Waleb
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Champs > Masters, two dif things

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apac doesn't particularly "suck" at champs, during champs the meta is usually figured out so the high risk unpredictable plays don't work as much; also, there are not many good teams in apac, only prx and drx are the main ones, prx fumbled champs 23, were horrible in 24, choked against a sub in fnc in 25; and drx get top 5-6 and then it seems that it is their ceiling (last year was different)

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im all for apac love, but was DRX ever an actual contender? theyve always been a 5th6th merchant, making them (IMO) just a "good enough but never trophy contender team"

the true trophy contenders were always just prx but theyre known chokers

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kyochchoke
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have you been watching champs inside your ass to not remember 2022 and 2025 DRX?

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Didnt APAC have 2 teams in the top 4 teams at Champs last year while EMEA and China shit the bed?

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Driver_stile
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No fntc exist bro tf u on ? Shit Americans larpers are out

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The last I checked EMEA had 3 EMEA teams in playoffs same as Americas but the same 1 team is reaching the finals + still lose the GF while APAC has more teams in top 4 lmaoo

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Your making a regional quality argument. And its pro emea. The best team are amer and emea if you look at. Podium and. Overall better top team cause more teams in top8. Now if you take the precise this and that u ll aend up being right but that dishonest. Anyone can be right when he writes the rules himself

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Apac historically have done quite well. DRX produced good results internationally and PRX is literally one of the strongest franchises in all of VCT.

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i know it seems like im coping but besides the fact that ge almost won, APAC is the only region that didnt have a signle matchup against china. 2 of emea's 3 wins are against XLG and JDG, theyre not better than apac, if apac got chinese teams they would be 3-1 too

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EMEA went 1v1 with apac while playing against its best team and its 1st seed. I dont think t1 beats TL and NS beats KC. Doesn't look ilike it to me

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if that will be the case then sure, but for now EMEA and APAC are tied 1 to 1, T1 can beat FUT easily, GE can beat VIT and NS can beat KC

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No t1 aren't beating fut at all. Unless some crazy map veto / sop. Sleeping happens. NS from what we've seen. Can play a bit but got rolled by the most convincing team for now in NRG . But. There miles behind kc. And vita looked way more controlled than ge. So i don't agree but its true that none played a Chinese team i maybe they wouldn't in the bin. That bad if it was another way around. Still KC is like top 2 3 max this tournament. And no apac team is in the top 4. For now

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Its because they are more brainless regions who are stronger when the meta is less settled.

When the smart regions Emea/amer get enough time to figure it all out they tend to beat them later in the year

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So what they need to improve

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Cheeders
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Still too early tbh apac can still bounce back atleast apac actually got some close games unlike cn

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