Winner of champs

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shrike-
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will not be a 1st seed

will likely be a 2nd or 3rd seed

#2
ODDS
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#LETSGOLIQUID

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Liquid is losing to Tyloo

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you send whatever team there vs TL ...they are winning and going 1-2 and it is decided

#3
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Water is wet

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LIQUIDD

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I would be shocked. More likely that JDG win than liquid

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Bro wha they're in a group with 100T and fut

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will be a 1st seed

will be 100T/KC

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Nah, the expected winner never wins

#14
sentinelmain377
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo

ig u mean champs only?

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Yeah i mean champs, that's kinda like the whole thing around champs, how a team you don't expect to win will win

#30
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edg was first seed no? and eg as well

#34
coltyyy
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tbf i dont think anyone expect chinese teams to win champs no? especially its their very first event too

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Why? 100T is first seed and they have very good chance of winning the whole thing. They are in the same position as NRG was last year.

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eh? NRG was a second seed last year

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Wasn't talking about seeding when I compared them to NRG. They are almost guaranteed top 4 and very good chance of winning Champs.

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okay and i'm saying they're not going to because the expected winner never wins

#19
Stinger
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NRG win was not unexpected unless you don't understand the game. So what are you talking about?

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Elaborate

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Stinger
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YOU elaborate. What makes NRG, NS, LEV win "unexpected"?

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Because prior to the event they were not considered a favorite to win

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So you were living under a rock. Neon was considered best rookie of the year and LEV had by far the best retakes in the world. NRG had best mid rounding in 3v3, 3v4, 4v4 situations and by far the best Corrode and Abyss in the world. Everyone and their moms were hyping up Dambi's judge and Francis' Yoru.

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Ok

And?

#24
Stinger
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So what's your argument for them not being one of the favorites?

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NRG/NS/LEV wasn't a favorite to win because they didn't have established success yet, at this point they'd only just become good and could've easily crumbled internationally

all three would be favorites if LEV made champs

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Congo1
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KC will win

#12
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FUT has a better chance

#10
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yo this means FUT is gonna win

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hopefully

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