Actual issue with VCT internationals

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J7N
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China getting 4 slots is actually hurting the competitive integrity of Masters/Champs. There are many EMEA, Americas, and Pacific teams that missed out on Champs who are 10x better than these Chinese teams.

LEV
MIBR
BBL
Heretics
Varrel
GenG

All of those teams CLEAR Tyloo and XLG from what we've seen. And its like this every Masters/Champs. Reduce China slots

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nightwinter14
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5 sneaks

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captmarshmallow
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6 Sneaks, but still i agree with the take

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Im saying they’re better than XLG and Tyloo, not that they’re good

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DSBY
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if we limit the slots of chinese teams:

less revenue
chinese teams will fall behind even more
less interest

all of this is bad for the valorant ecosystem

i get it that the tyloo & xlg match werent interesting for most people
but its more than just 'lets cut them off'

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J7N
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Bro just make some W deals with the King of England and the US military so we get revenue from the west

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america+eu nearly don't give enough shit about esports as asia, literally every single esports wants to have a huge asian market

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Well other than CS, Europe loves CS. Which proves its possible to have a huge western market, you just gotta play the waiting game and become a big part of the culture, CS is like 1000 years old atp

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sure, but then cs still yearns for china. just this year there were like 5 A-S tier events in china, shanghai will be the first city to host 2 cs2 majors (first repeat in the cs2 era since 2023). And CS and it's eu love is literally impossible to replicate, it would need a decade, maybe more. From competititve standpoint, sure, I get why you don't want china. But when Riot literally uses china to pull the viewership numbers out of their ass (Cuz we can't prove how many chinese viewers val actually has). Like, look at london, barely 1 mil on escharts, a dogshit viewership, but then riot use china as a way to boast about 9.8 mil and then it's not that bad.

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yeah but ppl will only focus on the money in an entertainment product even though they are a viewer.

China is shit and embarrassing and should get 2 slots max if any

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Nef0r0
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people want entertainment, it's just people realize money talks, not ''fun'' or ''competition''.

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localkoolkid
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dawg they have the money riot is rich asf, imagine going to a food place where a large portion of the food is shit and being fine with it because the food makes money.

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and so you think a company this fucking big will just invest into esports with no profits just cuz ''well it's fun to see tier 1 val''. Any huge brand is a greedy ship of shit which will do anything to maximize profits. Remove china, what does vct have rn? dead emea, inconsistent pacific and americas which suffered a dip in viewership? london had 9.8 mil with china, 1 mil on escharts. That's how huge that market is, that's why riot wants to milk them for cash. Riot literally depend on china and korea in LoL, LEC and LCS aren't even that important to them. And now you are surprised riot focuses on china so much?

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localkoolkid
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No shit I understand why, but should I care as a consumer? Fuck no.

How tf are they are gonna charge 100+ dollars for esports skins in the game then have one quarter of every tournament be dogshit.

Riot is a billion dollar company owned by a multi hundred billion dollar company, they have money, don't say it like they are scraping by because China is saving them.

But we must protect and defend the billion dollar company...come on man you are justifying getting a subpar product based off business decision as a CONSUMER.

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Nef0r0
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wdym defending, I hate franchising as a fucking system and believe valorant would be better off, it's just obvious riot will not give a shit about entertainment, sadly

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LEV is the only team that deserves to make champs and would have been even remotely competitive

#14
sheesh_o
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Bro I think riot should combine china and pacific that would be better and increase 1 slot to every region honestly

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The logistics would fail

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sheesh_o
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Ohooo my bad

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