Pro's who are overhated

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Theres a lot of Pro's who just get shit that i think is unjustified. Like some of them arent even dogshit or even remotely bad but they're talked about like Prime M8 Click.

1. Rossy - Ive talked about this guy for a long time now and i geniunly believe he gets too much shit for no fucking reason. He was ENVY's best player all year and people refuse to accept it.
Kickoff he was the second highest rated on the team (behind Inspire), Stage1 & Stage2 he was the highest rated on the team. He can play 2 roles on a Top Level and probably even a 3rd being Sentinel. Sure his IGL ability needs work but with the right tema im sure he could make it work.

2. Starxo - Geniunly a solid player and a solid IGL both in and out of the server. I dont know whats the story behind the negativity he recieves but his ability as a player shouldnt be diminished because of that. Can play Scan, Smokes and can IGL for a team. Took M8 to an international too, sure they team mightve flopped after that but he never really looked like the issue for M8.

3. Inspire - The one event he played in he was the best player for his team, I truly believe this guy has the potential to be one of the greatest Sentinel Players this game has to offer but he just needs to be in a team where he doesnt fuck it up or gets fucked up. His understanding of the game and his role is Top Tier but he simply needs another chance to display it. Just needed to see more out of him on ENVY but stunner cucked him.

4. Boaster - Any Goatster hate is braindead, "Oh give me 4 Aim demons to win" "Superteam merchant" "Wont be anywhere without his team" etc. I truly with my whole heart belive 2023 FNC wouldve not even gotten close to lifting a trophy without Boaster, they wouldnt have made 3 Grand Finals in 2025 without Boaster, This argument that he needs 4 aim demons to be great goes both ways because THOSE 4 AIM DEMONS NEED HIM TO SUCCEED TOO. Best IGL this game has seen, the most decorated IGL this game has seen and the most impressive leader this game has seen. Turned nobody's like Hiro, Veqaj and Kajaak (he won ascension ik) into Top players in their roles. Speak on Goatsters name with respect.

5. Brawk - People hate this dude for "ruining the game" or just "abusing the odin". People fail to realise that everyone can buy this gun and everyone can use it too, the reason why Brawk dominates with it is because he does it better than everyone else. So many instances where his team talks about how this dude sits in Customs to practice wallbang spots and find out where he can counter another team, that shit aint easy. The Odin didnt make Brawk, Brawk made the Odin what it is today.

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#4
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good shout but he is THE yoru merchant

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nice 👍🏼

#5
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comeback is underhated

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i dont hate brawk for using the Odin, i just hate him is that ok?

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People hate this dude for "ruining the game" or just "abusing the odin". People fail to realise that everyone can buy this gun and everyone can use it too

This is a strawman.
People do not hate the odin because they think it gives NRG an unfair advantage, everyone is well aware that the Odin is a gun anyone can use. People dislike the Odin because of it's perceived as a lower skill / more rng weapon. Everyone all ready complains and hate when teams get spam kills through smokes add the odin on top of that and it's natural, people would be upset about the weapon's less appealing gameplay design. It's just not fun to watch, that simple.

Granted, this isn't brawk's fault so he could easily be described as being overhated since the community should instead be blaming Riot for the utterly garbage map design

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Exactly, none of it is Brawks fault hes just a man capitalizing on the shit game design of the small indie company that is Riot Games. Also Brawktagon was him without the Odin too

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Bros who say it's a "rng" weapon don't realize the amount of practice Brawk actually has with the odin. I think he's stated in multiple interviews that he practices for hours w it in the range and on maps

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I'm not saying the weapon itself or any of brawk's lineups are RNG. By design the odin is far more capable of getting spam kills than any other weapon, spams kills of timings/util are fine but a lot of spam kills are also due to luck. Pair that with the fact a lot of the cover of sites can be wall-banged and it lends to getting more these kills than other weapons. (Phantom has a similar issue but at least its lower bullet penetration means you are less likely to getting spammed).

Honestly just remove Odin and Phantom, force everyone onto vandal

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W Wjfrost

#11
zak9
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facts

#12
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Starxo is the polish c0m

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Turned nobody's like Hiro, Veqaj and Kajaak (he won ascension ik) into Top players in their roles

This is why I dislike Boaster more than I probably should. I HATE the narrative that these world class talents he plays with would just be some bums without him, it's actually insulting to their talent tbh. Hiro could play for my premier team and still develop into one of the region's best

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Im not saying they wouldnt be good without him, im just saying they became great with him. Boaster didnt install talent into these players boaster just found talent and polished it into what they are today. Hiro wouldve still been good without his tenure on FNC but he became amazing and part of it is because of his time on FNC. they gave him a platform to show what he has and refine what he's got.

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Worst post ever

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  1. Rossy made an international in what was at that point in time the hardest region, he definitely has potential and has saved ENVY countless times. I don't really know why people think he's some sort of team destroyer, he was removed from T1 because he was an import and they wanted to go Korean, removed from C9 because C9 is famously known for their management decisions, removed from LEV because it was a dysfunctional roster that was playing Breach and had Demon1 on Raze, and was ENVY's best player for most of the split apart from Demon1

  2. Starxo isn't overhated, he is just a mediocre IGL riding off a champs win from 2021, he is probably in the middle half of callers but he gets hate because he is constantly being recommended for top tier rebuilds he simply has no business being included in

  3. Inspire is an amazing player and has crazy potential but he's always been on a team with players that he doesn't socially mix well with, he tries to play with teams that he doesn't mesh with and could do great under the right roster, he understands his role better than most

  4. This meta is rough for IGLs that lack sufficient firepower, and Boaster is the one most known for making it a 4v5 and still managing to call his team out of it. He's not overhated, but the meta has shifted away from him in the same way the meta has shifted away from lovers rock, both could be great and were great in the past under different circumstances

  5. People were hating on him for abusing the Odin in late 2025, but now we just hate on him for being on NRG. We don't care that he uses the gun, every single team uses the Odin and if they don't they are trolling, it's just the meta

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I havent seen a single rebuild with Starxo yet specially one where he's included in a superteam. The majority of the hate he recieves is from his trashtalk which is just another case of the VAL community being pussies

I agree with the meta being rough for IGL's but that wasnt the reason why FNC were so shit this year, they wouldve made London and Shanghai if it werent for the constant team switches and role swaps the team had going on. They had Veqaj then Cyvoph then Cloud and it just never stuck long enough for it to work.

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I have personally seen a LOT of posts calling for Starxo on Heretics, he is just a mediocre player, I have zero problem with trashtalk and actually enjoy it as a viewer but you have to at least be able to back it up a little

FNC had ridiculously unlucky circumstances but you have to remember they missed Santiago with their full roster while Veqaj was putting up insane numbers, maybe they could have made Champions but that kickoff roster I would still likely be ranking them to get grouped in every single group

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FNC always miss out on the first even of the year this is nothing new. The one thing about FNC is they only get better with time, most teams fall off after being good for a bit but FNC has that longevity factor so i dont think they wouldve gotten grouped at all

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Buzz. Everyone still hating on him for the T1 documentary thing when no one even understands what he said. It wasn't translated well, they weren't really blaming him with the "Did you even shoot?" It was more of Buzz asking what happened on site, not trying to be mean to sylvan.

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Facts on 5. They're acting like he was the only one using the Odin.

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