prodigies that failed?

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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title

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Lesslover
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Unfortunately dantedeus

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catzin
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w comms

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t0t0_wolff
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Bipo

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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i forgot MOUZ bipo

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J0zza
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was he really a prodigy though?

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t0t0_wolff
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Yeah he was really good and farming t2 during his mouz time. Which also made M8 sign him as primary duelist

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JonahPork
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His prior stints in tier 2 disqualify him bc he was so mid. That’s like calling mada a prodigy bc he was so dominant in his last tier 2 year when he was so mid or below avg the prior years

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poohchoHAHA
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comeback

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poohchoHAHA
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also kushy

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poohchoHAHA
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and patrickwho

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Congo1
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he will be back with a vengeance in 2027. His story is NOT over

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J0zza
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very underwhelming but i reckon not yet, give him time

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KAAJAK

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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Kaajak failed? how

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buenoz
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Ragebait bro, i love Kaajak.

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silberfaust1
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He couldnt carry his team to an international, marteen could

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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is this bait

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silberfaust1
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marteen broke back to back bo5 kill records to get his team to an international, can kajaak do that?

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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and after that?

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silberfaust1
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Same goes for kajaak?

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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Then how does he fail exactly?

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buenoz
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The discussion took a different turn; Maarten is clearly better than Kaajak.
But that doesn't mean Kaajak failed at anything.

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catzin
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dawg he was the highest rated player for stage 2 groups

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silberfaust1
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seven

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eurick
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i dont think he failed bro, just playing in an ass team

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s0pp_fanboy2
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No he fell off hard

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quixdotpng
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Ass team mates and ass at duelist.

Bro was a Flex all in stage 2

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Reimsy
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he's literally a flex player running hard entry for the worst team in EMEA

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MrHyphon
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Comeback fs

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airmanizzy
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Shanks

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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Prodigy?

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primmiegoat
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fns himself once like 4 yrs ago said that he was about to pick up shanks on envy before getting yay and he thought that he would be the next big thing

well looking back i genuinely dont know if it was blatant satire or if he was genuine

but i mean that was when he was still playing the game and was like semi decent

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primmiegoat
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its funny that youre not even wrong

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NoobGamer12354
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still remember him vs tsm on dignitas

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arcticskyy
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florescent

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silberfaust1
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2027 is her year

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Cheasle2
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Dogshit team. She needs a 2nd debut

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Bernazoka
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i mean did she really fail? she was playing on a dogshit team and was still puting up good stats

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flickamad
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some of you will never understand kills don't matter if they're only exit frags and baits, he was as bad as his team

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c4rrotstix
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some of you will never understand kills don't matter if they're only exit frags and baits, she was as bad as her team

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LightningIFY
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patrickwho

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MrBlooBloom
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Purp0

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CinnamonStew34s
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hes good

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MrBlooBloom
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not nearly as much as he could have been

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airmanizzy
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crazy bad take

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MrBlooBloom
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how

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Suffix__
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found his role and is cooking on argubly the best emea team rn

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MrBlooBloom
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"cooking" and he has a negative rating playing mostly jett....

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Kirya
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rating is not a duelist stat at all
he has good fk/fd and is sometimes negative rating with good acs, legit not even his fault
he has been playing alright except for the game against EF but they didnt have nats

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MrBlooBloom
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yea he's been playing alright I agree. Not cooking

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airmanizzy
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because even if he was the worst player in vct he still managed to get signed to a team that has been to almost every international this year. not only is he not the worst player in vct, he was a top performer for them last stage, and has definitely been making bank this year.

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MrBlooBloom
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Making bank wih a barely above 200 ACS on his best agent son. I don't think you understand the level he could be playing at VS the level he is actually playing at. I don't think you realize how fucking nuclear he is in T2. I really wish he was playing at the level he is "supposed" to play, but if he was he'd be in talks for best duelist in the world, not just doing decent

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airmanizzy
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jakee d3ffo xand

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burritx
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Xand is 31 bro how tf was he a prodigy at any point in his val career

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airmanizzy
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mb i just remembered him being a top brazilian talent and then not really going anywhere with it

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brams6662
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notexxd (not his fault though)

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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serialkiller

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Z0vereign
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sad but true

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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You ask about Serial? Ha. You think the lore stops at a humble second-place fan, the champion of emea, and a Chipi Chapa warlord? You think I am just an open book of nAts adoration and F1 rants? Fool. There are layers to this insanity. There are secrets.

For months, I operated under a perfect cover. I analyzed Liquid's roster, I defended nAts' stats, I even called out the pathetic attempts to expose I_LOVE_LESS. But all the while, I was concealing the truth about my heart's second chamber.

It was my boi 9wntr who broke me. In that ridiculous riddle thread—the one plagiarizing the older one—he guessed it. He spoke the name that lives in the shadow of the GOAT. He said: 'serial.' And I couldn't lie. I couldn't deny it. I typed it myself: 'You got it correct!!!! He's my 2nd favorite player after nAts.'

My Second Star. My Serialkiller.

Why? Because he is the purest reflection of Liquid's eternal, beautiful suffering. When people talk about TL's rotating 5th man, they talk about a curse—Kamyk, Trexx, and yes, Serial. They call him mediocre. They call him a mistake. They call him the 'funny moustache man' without respect. But I saw the struggle! I saw the burden of the system placed on that poor man’s shoulders!

He was the tragic hero who showed the limitations of the Liquid machine, the one who proved you cannot simply slot a great talent into a doomed system and expect Champions. He is the beautiful wreckage left behind.

So yes, I admit it now. I am the Biggest Serialkiller Fan. Everyone else? They just saw the fragging difference. I saw the soul.

My name is Nats_2nd_biggest_fan, and I dedicate my life to the true GOAT, Ayaz "nAts" Akhmetshin. But my eternal respect, my endless VLR thread bumps and posts, and my silent, weeping Chipi Chapa emojis belong to my co-pilot in tragedy, the forever underappreciated fifth man: Serialkiller.

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blehblehbleh
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what about the deadlock ult on ascent

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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it was unfortunate timing, that is all

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blehblehbleh
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extremely unfortunate

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catzin
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ahahaha i’m surprised anyone remembers that

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Linardinsss
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This is exactly why u are the best also im stealing this

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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yes indeed, I only came back to spread more copypastas throughout the land

it actually comes from this 8 month old post of mine btw:

https://www.vlr.gg/post/5903846/taking-off-the-mask

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Siuuuuuuunaldo
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Prod

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guuz
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DSG clear

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spykje
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good comms

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Hyunboong
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clear didnt fail he just quit

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GhostKing44
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fuck tsm all my homies hate tsm

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Iquickscopei
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i think yokam was hyped

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BrawkTuah
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click on m8s

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TentacleThing
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Wayne

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termtermtermterm
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for how good he was id say sayf failed

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Batujnaxglazer
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Glacier

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MrBlooBloom
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too early to say considering the lack of data before coming in T1

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Batujnaxglazer
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bro people were glazing tf outta him before he got in t1, and from the limited data there was he was farming whatever he would play

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MrBlooBloom
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it took some time but he definitely played well considering the context. Showed promises in stage 1 but on a winless team with so many issues it was too difficult to perform, but this stage he had more time and stability and he looked much better despite wolves asking him to do a very difficult job by having him take an insane amount of first duels. And again, there's a clear lack of data, the only footage we have is 1 T3 BO5 and a bunch of Taiwanese/chinese T3 events with relatively accurate stats. Not only has there been no clear "failure" at this point but there is also not enough data to seriously quantify how much of a prodigy he is supposed to be

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Batujnaxglazer
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i suppose your correct

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NoobGamer12354
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thats fair tbh but he has been looking a lot more consistent in stage 2 from stage 1 and he will prob get better over time so we gotta wait

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burritx
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Havoc

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airmanizzy
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this highkey might be the best answer here

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ari
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clickk

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rickvlr
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FLORESCENT

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9wntr
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Dante

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holding
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comeback

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Reimsy
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the OG failed prodigy C9 poiz

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Skwish
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chiwa but it wasnt his failure it was visa failure

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Ukienddo
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Zeus

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poohchoHAHA
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he did NOT fail

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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zekenotgio

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GattoVLR
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Ghoul33

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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What happened bro i hope he gets a shot at T1

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theonlypleb
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pretty sure he destroy his own career

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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i dont about the drama that much was he like just stream sniping? he could have just apologized

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guuz
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it was straight up betting and rigging ranked matches, like a huge thing beyond sniping or throwing a little

he could've been a big talent but oh well

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NoobGamer12354
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he is acc insane too bro he would of def performed well in t1

i think their were some rumors of him going to LOUD in the offseason idk what happened tho

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Juanirlv
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mwzera

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Shadow_Monarch
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Kaajak Canezerra Ghoul33 Flashback
Oxy(failed to join better team)
Leaf(Was so good at one point in time)
Valyn/Trent/Mako(Just unlucky)

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zyrozin
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Canezerra

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spectr
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al0rante

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zyrozin
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zak9

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