-They beat FNC at champs (did you expect them to lose on purpose??)
-People dont like that Brawk uses a gun thats in the game (how does that make any sense?)
-Ethan moved during a tech pause in a random group stage game against Sen (who gives a fuck about a group stage game or Sen)
-They are a North American team thats good (South Americans and Europeans naturally hate this)
i mean i personally don't feel any way towards the NRG players, but stuff like this does affect the public perception of the orgs and makes people dislike them
yeah probably the most fence sitting middle of the road thing ive ever posted on this site lol
"people hate org not players not their fault"
(#8) i agree it shouldn't change how you feel about the team, just from an outsider perspective lots of people dislike this + the us army sponsors
Oh yeah I definitely understand why people don’t fluke the org from the outside, as long as we know we’re a fan of the players instead of the org
i support the team cuz of the players so I don't support shit like this that the org does
nrg is the org, we aint talking bout the players, i didnt like brawk odin but i love his sheriff so its all good
Disliking a player because of performance is insanity. Your fav players should never be based on how good they are, thats just being a sheep
If they’re not good, why would I like them? Part of being an entertaining player is actually being good on the server, if they’re not good, then they need to have an entertaining personality or something admirable about them which brawk does not
Imagine in regular sports just changing your favorite player to whoever is playing the best, thats such a sheep mentality. IMO your fav player should be based on personality, role, and playstyle, not just "good stats = you're my new fav", thats caveman brained
That’s not what I said at all, not even sure how you came to that conclusion
I was more speaking about the general logic of basing favorites on performance, I'm never really talking to individuals on VLR lol
Regardless what you were doing or not 18 and 20 are some of the dumbest replies ive ever read on this site, and that's with stripping away any of the context from the conversation. Adding it makes it even worse
"Deciding your favorite player based on stats and not personality is a sheep mentality"
VLR user: this is the the dumbest thing ive ever heard
This is why I dont engage with people on an individual level
i think calling people sheep for what they choose to like and support is indeed stupid. Also taking the time to reply to JP and not reading anything about what he said just screams illiteracy. Sorry bro
I was replying to the first part of his statement that "If they’re not good, why would I like them". That is a very blind follower mentality and isnt very genuine. And its not stupid for me or anyone to question the authenticity of someone who picks favs off stats. Again not speaking to that user individually, just in general
takes money from american army, has zionists on league team, employs cheathan, team with 0 life or aura or energy, dead soulless org and team, horrible parasocial twitter fans
"Cheathan" read my third point
"0 aura or energy" they stand up and yell just as much as other teams
"Dead and soulless team" currently in great form and pretty much locked for champs
And again you have to separate the 5 players on the team from the org. They have nothing to do with NRG's LoL team
they may stand up and yell but when they do it just feels dry and auraless
still cheathan though, carried to two champs and deserved neither
respectfully bruh they all compete under the same banner so it can still 100% apply
also nrg is most definitely a soulless team there is no debate, bland players, bland branding
That’s genuinely such a bad take. The Valorant players have nothing to do with what NRG does with their League team so why should they get any blame?
Criticize players all you want regarding how they play or how they have “zero aura” or whatever, but separate them from their org. I would expect you to share that same principle considering your flair.
i'll be real i don't watch many other esports, and the ones that I do t1 doesn't have anyone problematic signed to them
i'm not aware of anyone they employ rn who has done anything horribly wrong
Bro your whole flair is problematic. That’s why it’s so dumb to blame players for what their shitty orgs are doing.
other than saudi money can you give another example? unfortunately, literally every org takes saudi money, and all of esports is reliant on it in the current ecosystem. while t1 is definitely the most accepting of it saudi money is a necessary evil for esports to even exist right now
iirc the Valorant team had a scandal where most of the team, including the coach, were bullying one player. Also players from their League team have publicly stated they would want to have meals with certain heinous public figures, one of them being Mohammed bin Salman. I don't follow T1 closely enough to know much about them at a corporate level other than their partnership with the Saudi royal family, but that should be egregious enough as it is.
Funny how you are willing to handwave an org's shitty decisions because "saudi money is a necessary evil" but you want to dog on players because "they all compete under the same banner" as a zionist whom they have zero involvement with.
Mada, Skuba, and Ethan have lots of personality. And coach Bonkar has TONS of personality
It's not like Ethan was actually breaking a rule anyway, the game hadn't been paused yet
I see all this criticism of the nrg org for the national guard sponsorship but have never in my life seen any for t1 being sponsored by the saudi royal family, can anyone explain why that is?
i dont like it or support it but nearly every org is. Any org who is an EWC partner is taking saudi family money, and that encompasses about 80-90% of the orgs in VCT including ascension teams
bit disingenuous to act as if there's not a significant difference between being one of many teams participating in a sportswashing event and being directly partnered with a company founded by mohammad bin salman himself https://www.redseaglobal.com/en/partnerships/t1/
"being one of many teams participating in a sportswashing event"
not every team who goes to EWC is a part of the partnership program. that is a conscious choice made by the org themselves to take it, and is a direct partnership with ewc which is all funded by the PIF
ur average vct watchers hate nrg cause of brawks usage of the odin
You went from hating to just disliking Ethan? You’re really taking your “no more hate” thing seriously
why r u guys trying to give reasons and stuff, just hate for the sake of hating. all my vlrians hate nrg. There isn’t one reason that convinces me to like this team
Don't hate NRG, but I don't like Ethan as a player
Bro went around the map and saw Sentinels whole setup and then later tweeted about how he knew it was a tech pause, but decided to cheat anyways because the admins weren't clarifying it was lol. Genuinely shameless.
because sen did it to them on the prior map, and seeing the setup didnt even do anything because sen won 2 rounds out of 3 afterwards before halftime
fuck anyone who supports that dumbass US army org and fuck anyone willing to wear that shit on their jersey
Please remove the second half of the 3rd statement, I wont tolerate this slander
I hope the NRG supporters see this
I have a love hate relationship with NRG
I love Ethan, because I love EG 2023. I hate Brawk and his smug fucking face when he spams the odin, and that stupid smile he cracks after clutching, or getting a 3k, but I also respect and like him because hes an insane player.
Mada is probably one of my favorite duelists to watch, up there with Oxy and Sato. Skuba is an amazing personality and he is just really cool. Keiko is in the way of NRG Demon1 happening in 2027 but hes a great player so I like him.
Honestly, I hate NRG because of the way they handled 2024. They shoved Demon1 (my favorite player) onto raze and entry, and sent him to kamikaze into site without any help on 5 man A site pops on fucking Ascent against a shitty EG team that shouldnt even sniff NRG 2024’s skill level
They put Ethan on igl when he had no experience, and Ch0t the terrorist was coaching, and he slandered my goat. The org is also pretty shitty but we will separate the Valorant team from that
I love NRG 2025, they shut up the toxic EMEA viewers and the delusional shitheads who seriously think their region was good. I love NRG 2026, but I miss s0m. I hate NRG because of 2024. I love NRG because of the BLG and Cove incident in 2023
I love and hate NRG, but my hate>love
So fuck NRG
Edit: bonkar is rlly cool and does rlly well for chicken nugget salary i love bonkar
i dislike the take that the org took in previous years of just grabbing tournament winners with little thought behind it, mismanaging demon1 and general dramas surrounding team members just give me a distaste
i want to enjoy mada but i honestly feel like hes kinda too inconsistent internationally for me to want to watch him
although i respect skuba i dont enjoy him as a player, im not too sure why
brawk while very talented just annoys me to watch (not because i dont like him, it makes me annoyed at riot), i get hes pretty much the only player who has put the effort into mastering the odin i just dont like watching it at the skill he has with the odin
i dont have many thoughts on ethan, hes alright i guess, and i do like keiko
i do like bonkar too but ive seperated my bonkar love from nrg for some reason
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