Huge prize pool
Teams actually had to qualify they weren't invited
No bo1 format
Single elim playoffs is arguably better since every match counts
Live crowd in Paris instead of some studio in Saudi
Ewc is NOT Mickey
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Teams actually had to qualify they weren't invited
No bo1Except the 1st seeds(though this one can be said as qualifying by stage 1) and Heretics but I agree
Prize pools dont matter
online qualifiers
Fair enough but that was extreme mickey in the first place
Double elimination is better to determine which team is better
Very low bar
Useless_Miks_Ult [#3]Prize pools dont matter
online qualifiers
Fair enough but that was extreme mickey in the first place
Double elimination is better to determine which team is better
Very low bar
Counter strike has single elim
SLG_Spectre [#4]Counter strike has single elim
Who cares about counter strike we are talking about valorant which is more pistol round and snowballing reliant
Also What happens if the other team counters your map pool
SLG_Spectre [#4]Counter strike has single elim
Why do people always bring up Cs when defending single elim format? Are they just dumb?
Also cs majors had bo3 finals until like last year. Does that mean bo3 for finals was good and not a bad thing?
Useless_Miks_Ult [#3]Prize pools dont matter
online qualifiers
Fair enough but that was extreme mickey in the first place
Double elimination is better to determine which team is better
Very low bar
Lets try to have a normal discussion about this
Prize Pools Matter the most because thats why orgs send teams in the first place
The level of the teams were high. You got bbl one of the top emea teams, NS who recently won a masters by 3-0ing PRX, and NRG the reining champion
If you think my perspective isnt enough; FNS says the exact same thing
Blackbelt912 [#8]Lets try to have a normal discussion about this
Prize Pools Matter the most because thats why orgs send teams in the first place
The level of the teams were high. You got bbl one of the top emea teams, NS who recently won a masters by 3-0ing PRX, and NRG the reining champion
If you think my perspective isnt enough; FNS says the exact same thing
Prize pools doesnt equal prestige so you are saying ewc>masters?
You could have Said vit but You Said BBL lol not saying BBL are bad but they arent a top team in EMEA rn fair enough for NS but NRG was litreally playing Ethan neon bruh
So if FNS has an opinion he is just correct?
Just accept the fact thar EWC is still a tournament people put in the work to win and 100t won it. Thats what makes it not mickey. Because people put in the effort to actually win it and not to troll or merely train
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#11]Just accept the fact thar EWC is still a tournament people put in the work to win and 100t won it. Thats what makes it not mickey. Because people put in the effort to actually win it and not to troll or merely train
Bro NRG was trolling
Also you put on effort on every tourney wdym
Useless_Miks_Ult [#12]Bro NRG was trolling
Also you put on effort on every tourney wdym
Isnt that literally the point of a tounament?
To win means to put effort and that's what matters. Not prestige or title or prize pool. Its to prove you have the skills. And if you can do that, its not mickey or troll
As for the NRG troll. Ethan Neon is not a troll, they weren't merely just putting reps in for it, they tried to win, they put the effort and seriousness for it
Blackbelt912 [#8]Lets try to have a normal discussion about this
Prize Pools Matter the most because thats why orgs send teams in the first place
The level of the teams were high. You got bbl one of the top emea teams, NS who recently won a masters by 3-0ing PRX, and NRG the reining champion
If you think my perspective isnt enough; FNS says the exact same thing
“Fns” 😹😭😹😭 went 0-4 vs bilibili on 4 different maps losing 13-5 on the last one, and never qualifying to another international, lost a 12-5 lead vs cloud9 xeppaa, his takes shouldnt matter more than ewc winner benjyfishy
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#13]Isnt that literally the point of a tounament?
To win means to put effort and that's what matters. Not prestige or title or prize pool. Its to prove you have the skills. And if you can do that, its not mickey or troll
As for the NRG troll. Ethan Neon is not a troll, they weren't merely just putting reps in for it, they tried to win, they put the effort and seriousness for it
You cannot tell me NRG one of the best haven teams in the world on at London randomly becomes shit
Also What about Single elimination? Teams put effort on redbull too?
Useless_Miks_Ult [#16]You cannot tell me NRG one of the best haven teams in the world on at London randomly becomes shit
Also What about Single elimination? Teams put effort on redbull too?
They literally won haven 13-2 IDK what u mean?
SLG_Spectre [#4]Counter strike has single elim
Why do we act like cs majors are the pinnacle of tournament formats? I watched cs for 10 years and always considered cs majors to have the worst format. The only reason cs majors are the way they are is bc of time constraints
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#17]They literally won haven 13-2 IDK what u mean?
And Lost to M8 and BBL
Its just ppl are set on their opinion and any voice otherwise they instantly rise up to insult for no reason. SMH; u do u
FOR US TO TALK; GET UP TO MY LEVEL
cause right now you are 2 far below :)
Useless_Miks_Ult [#19]And Lost to M8 and BBL
Its just ppl are set on their opinion and any voice otherwise they instantly rise up to insult for no reason. SMH; u do u
FOR US TO TALK; GET UP TO MY LEVEL
cause right now you are 2 far below :)
Blackbelt912 [#21]Its just ppl are set on their opinion and any voice otherwise they instantly rise up to insult for no reason. SMH; u do u
FOR US TO TALK; GET UP TO MY LEVEL
cause right now you are 2 far below :)
im not insulting wdym
Useless_Miks_Ult [#19]And Lost to M8 and BBL
They were attempting to replicate the comp for haven and this was their way of getting the reps for it.
m8 and bbl were better trained on these maps cuz nrg's comp was newer then for them
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#23]They were attempting to replicate the comp for haven and this was their way of getting the reps for it.
m8 and bbl were better trained on these maps cuz nrg's comp was newer then for them
They won Only against KC bro and 100T were trolling that map
Blackbelt912 [#21]Its just ppl are set on their opinion and any voice otherwise they instantly rise up to insult for no reason. SMH; u do u
FOR US TO TALK; GET UP TO MY LEVEL
cause right now you are 2 far below :)
you pressed the Victim Card ult button
it’s the best and most competitive mickey tournament ever so it kinda means something but also it kinda doesn’t
if you have the trophy it means a lot more than the sen invitational trophy for example but not more than a masters trophy
shrike- [#26]it’s the best and most competitive mickey tournament ever so it kinda means something but also it kinda doesn’t
if you have the trophy it means a lot more than the sen invitational trophy for example but not more than a masters trophy
This^
shrike- [#26]it’s the best and most competitive mickey tournament ever so it kinda means something but also it kinda doesn’t
if you have the trophy it means a lot more than the sen invitational trophy for example but not more than a masters trophy
its objectively not worth the same as a masters but its not significantly less than a masters either
almost like kato and cologne level if we made a CS analogy
it is for sure worth way more than red bull homeground, sen invitational, and radiant asia invitational
JonahPork [#18]Why do we act like cs majors are the pinnacle of tournament formats? I watched cs for 10 years and always considered cs majors to have the worst format. The only reason cs majors are the way they are is bc of time constraints
Yeah so many team qualify for them they have to make it shorter unless they want majors to be months long
serot [#28]its objectively not worth the same as a masters but its not significantly less than a masters either
almost like kato and cologne level if we made a CS analogyit is for sure worth way more than red bull homeground, sen invitational, and radiant asia invitational
i think EWC is more on the level of like… blast bounty
nasters are more kato/cologne with champs being majors
shrike- [#30]i think EWC is more on the level of like… blast bounty
nasters are more kato/cologne with champs being majors
nah masters are less than majors but not by that much
winning a masters in valorant is enough to cement your legacy in the same way winning a major in cs would
I think the scale is something like kato/colo < masters < majors < champions based on relative importance in their respective esports
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#11]Just accept the fact thar EWC is still a tournament people put in the work to win and 100t won it. Thats what makes it not mickey. Because people put in the effort to actually win it and not to troll or merely train
No, the players will always care. Its US THE PEOPLE who make a tourney prestigious. peep the viewership of ewc and stfu
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