HOLY FUCKKKK
DORAN IS SO USELESS
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t1 fans glazed him so much to the point that they actually said he's better than zeus btw
TURKISH TOPLANER. DOSENT SPEAK KOREAN, DOSENT SPEAK CHINEESE, HE SPEAKS FUCKING ENGLISH AND WHATEVER THE FUCK PEOPLE IN TURKEY SPEAK
NOT EVEN TOP 10 TOP LANER LMFAO
WilsonFisk666 [#5]T1 getting humbled lets goooooo
i mean let’s be entirely fr if T1 loses then the grand final matchup is immediately decided as BLG HLE
shrike- [#6]i mean let’s be entirely fr if T1 loses then the grand final matchup is immediately decided as BLG HLE
its going to be lyon hle tf u talking about
watch out! the twitter fangirls will say that doran has 1 more worlds than you!
shinehh [#8]watch out! the twitter fangirls will say that doran has 1 more worlds than you!
lmao
shinehh [#8]watch out! the twitter fangirls will say that doran has 1 more worlds than you!
im ngl, doran might be the single worst worlds winning top to exist. i can’t think of a toplaner that won worlds that is worse.
shinehh [#8]watch out! the twitter fangirls will say that doran has 1 more worlds than you!
mfs really tried to argue that bin is worse than him cuz of one worlds. mfs probably don't understand the game and just see "kill to t1 yayyyyy lets goooooooooooooooooooooooo #t1fighting"
shrike- [#10]im ngl, doran might be the single worst worlds winning top to exist. i can’t think of a toplaner that won worlds that is worse.
I would say it is still gimgoon but it is close...
delighted [#2]t1 fans glazed him so much to the point that they actually said he's better than zeus btw
both are sons of bin
shrike- [#10]im ngl, doran might be the single worst worlds winning top to exist. i can’t think of a toplaner that won worlds that is worse.
you can get carried to trophies
ethan and doran are the top contenders for people who should have never made it without being on the right team at the right time
shrike- [#10]im ngl, doran might be the single worst worlds winning top to exist. i can’t think of a toplaner that won worlds that is worse.
chineese teams were really bad other than ag. tes are frauds. and kt was literally bdd and friends
serot [#15]you can get carried to trophies
ethan and doran are the top contenders for people who should have never made it without being on the right team at the right time
this doesn’t track because at least ethan can carry when it matters
doran is legitimately useless 24/7
shinehh [#8]watch out! the twitter fangirls will say that doran has 1 more worlds than you!
he prove even a piece of shit can win world champion.
shrike- [#17]this doesn’t track because at least ethan can carry when it matters
doran is legitimately useless 24/7
give him some credit at least
doran will make 5 genuinely good plays to offset his 5 genuinely horrible ones per game
evens out to net zero, at least he isn't dead weight
serot [#19]give him some credit at least
doran will make 5 genuinely good plays to offset his 5 genuinely horrible ones per game
evens out to net zero, at least he isn't dead weight
yeah he’s not dead weight, he’s legitimately playing for the other team
peak doran is a great teamfighter and can find success even if he is down on weakside, but the guy is legitimately cryptothrowing this year
shrike- [#20]yeah he’s not dead weight, he’s legitimately playing for the other team
peak doran is a great teamfighter and can find success even if he is down on weakside, but the guy is legitimately cryptothrowing this year
actually you are right
he is unredeemable
serot [#19]give him some credit at least
doran will make 5 genuinely good plays to offset his 5 genuinely horrible ones per game
evens out to net zero, at least he isn't dead weight
u can't win worlds by being net 0. the reason why they won worlds is because a) easy path, b) choky, and c) flandre inted and t1 made the comeback against al
Well I mean he's already pretty mid in the first place but you also have to consider that he's basically always counter picked(since that allows one of the actually good players on t1 to not be counter picked) which makes him look even worse.
m0rtem [#24]u can't win worlds by being net 0. the reason why they won worlds is because a) easy path, b) choky, and c) flandre inted and t1 made the comeback against al
Wdym flandre inted? It was hope and shanks not flandre, he was pretty good at that worlds
M1ssing [#27]Wdym flandre inted? It was hope and shanks not flandre, he was pretty good at that worlds
in game 5, he like ran into all of t1 in the last drake fight and made it a 4v5. but yeah I would say its more guma and faker clutching up rather than a int
shrike- [#6]i mean let’s be entirely fr if T1 loses then the grand final matchup is immediately decided as BLG HLE
You have faith on hle Winning?
shrike- [#20]yeah he’s not dead weight, he’s legitimately playing for the other team
peak doran is a great teamfighter and can find success even if he is down on weakside, but the guy is legitimately cryptothrowing this year
Doran Is top 3 TF top laners in the world Also hes a top 5 top in the world right now
lovekylin [#18]he prove even a piece of shit can win world champion.
Bro why so much hate on him
GodAwfulGod [#25]Well I mean he's already pretty mid in the first place but you also have to consider that he's basically always counter picked(since that allows one of the actually good players on t1 to not be counter picked) which makes him look even worse.
What top laners in the world ARE better than him?
m0rtem [#28]in game 5, he like ran into all of t1 in the last drake fight and made it a 4v5. but yeah I would say its more guma and faker clutching up rather than a int
That wasnt even an int, he lived that engage and then the reason they didnt win that fight was cuz hope never commited and got poked out ^^
Kasstne [#33]What top laners in the world ARE better than him?
Zeus, Bin, Kiin, 369, and possibly also BrokenBlade, Siwoo and PerfecT
Kasstne [#33]What top laners in the world ARE better than him?
bin, theshy, bb, bwipo, baus, kiin, zeus, canna, naak naako, morgan, 369, zuian (tes mf), flandre, rest, driver, siwoo, myrwen . u get the fucking point
m0rtem [#36]bin, theshy, bb, bwipo, baus, kiin, zeus, canna, naak naako, morgan, 369, zuian (tes mf), flandre, rest, driver, siwoo, myrwen . u get the fucking point
I'd argue against bwipo, he's kind of washed now. Also no matter how much you like baus, you cannot call him better than doran, he'd probably get smoked by him if they were to lane against each other.
GodAwfulGod [#35]Zeus, Bin, Kiin, 369, and possibly also BrokenBlade, Siwoo and PerfecT
369 was not even playing this split LFMAO what ARE you saying
GodAwfulGod [#38]I'd argue against bwipo, he's kind of washed now. Also no matter how much you like baus, you cannot call him better than doran, he'd probably get smoked by him if they were to lane against each other.
bwipo, ok. But baus is better. Doran ints for no reason. Baus ints to win. theres a difference
GodAwfulGod [#35]Zeus, Bin, Kiin, 369, and possibly also BrokenBlade, Siwoo and PerfecT
Right now its only Bin Zeus and kiin not more than that
Kasstne [#40]369 was not even playing this split LFMAO what ARE you saying
369 is historically miles ahead of doran at every point in history
Kasstne [#32]Bro why so much hate on him
In a team full of talent, being mediocre is a mistake, and he even worse.
To be fair, his best champions were banned by G2. His Jayce was banned 3 times, his ambessa 2 times.
And Doran is not useless, I think he is just being overhated. They almost lost a game to TLAW on their 2nd match but he clutched it with his Jayce.
Its not like he was useless the entire series, yes he got solo killed multiple times, but most of the time T1 get something on the other side of the map after Doran died.
And if you check LCK ranking of players, only Keria and Peyz were ranked 1, even Oner is not on his usual form, he was ranked 6 out of all junglers, Faker was ranked 5th out of all midlaners and Doran ranked 5th on the topside.
But Doran is part of top 5 when it comes to solo killers at the lck, I think he even ranked number 1 last year summer.
The criticism is fair because he played poorly and even he himself admitted it during interview, but I think calling Doran useless and saying so many rude things about him is not fair at all. Yes he struggled, yes he played poorly but it is not fair to judge a player based on his bad series, or bad year. Remember he bloomed while he is being coached by Kkoma, Kkoma took a leave of absence, maybe Tom's coaching is different and maybe Doran is still adjusting, easyhoon is a new coach too. And to his haters, dont worry on one of Doran's stream he already mentioned that he has other goals that he wants to accomplish because he is not getting any younger, so the chance of him retiring after his contract is a big possibility, Kiin might be retiring too because he will serve at the military.
Sophiaaaaaaaaa [#46]To be fair, his best champions were banned by G2. His Jayce was banned 3 times, his ambessa 2 times.
And Doran is not useless, I think he is just being overhated. They almost lost a game to TLAW on their 2nd match but he clutched it with his Jayce.
Its not like he was useless the entire series, yes he got solo killed multiple times, but most of the time T1 get something on the other side of the map after Doran died.
And if you check LCK ranking of players, only Keria and Peyz were ranked 1, even Oner is not on his usual form, he was ranked 6 out of all junglers, Faker was ranked 5th out of all midlaners and Doran ranked 5th on the topside.
But Doran is part of top 5 when it comes to solo killers at the lck, I think he even ranked number 1 last year summer.
The criticism is fair because he played poorly and even he himself admitted it during interview, but I think calling Doran useless and saying so many rude things about him is not fair at all. Yes he struggled, yes he played poorly but it is not fair to judge a player based on his bad series, or bad year. Remember he bloomed while he is being coached by Kkoma, Kkoma took a leave of absence, maybe Tom's coaching is different and maybe Doran is still adjusting, easyhoon is a new coach too. And to his haters, dont worry on one of Doran's stream he already mentioned that he has other goals that he wants to accomplish because he is not getting any younger, so the chance of him retiring after his contract is a big possibility, Kiin might be retiring too because he will serve at the military.
i can’t pin the fault entirely on doran because the coaching staff allowed him to get counterpicked four times in a row and forced him to blind champions into a player that is known for his pocket picks
i will blame him however on making said pocket picks get insane value when it genuinely isn’t necessary, like kled g4
shrike- [#47]i can’t pin the fault entirely on doran because the coaching staff allowed him to get counterpicked four times in a row and forced him to blind champions into a player that is known for his pocket picks
i will blame him however on making said pocket picks get insane value when it genuinely isn’t necessary, like kled g4
I think they lost yesterday cause peyz was on a mage for like 50% of the series LMAO and doran got gapped by brokenbrain
gordonramsay [#48]I think they lost yesterday cause peyz was on a mage for like 50% of the series LMAO and doran got gapped by brokenbrain
i mean yeah if they put peyz on actual champions then T1 might’ve won
they actually could’ve straight up won the series if faker didn’t turbo int game 4 tbh
gordonramsay [#48]I think they lost yesterday cause peyz was on a mage for like 50% of the series LMAO and doran got gapped by brokenbrain
i actually think that it isnt entirely dorans fault, he is still a decent player especially on tanks, problem is that a team cant have both a mid and a top laner that is weak in lane, you will just not win internationals like that most of the time except if the midlane meta is very roam heavy and top lane meta is lane swaps. (like worlds and msi last year)
Sophiaaaaaaaaa [#46]To be fair, his best champions were banned by G2. His Jayce was banned 3 times, his ambessa 2 times.
And Doran is not useless, I think he is just being overhated. They almost lost a game to TLAW on their 2nd match but he clutched it with his Jayce.
Its not like he was useless the entire series, yes he got solo killed multiple times, but most of the time T1 get something on the other side of the map after Doran died.
And if you check LCK ranking of players, only Keria and Peyz were ranked 1, even Oner is not on his usual form, he was ranked 6 out of all junglers, Faker was ranked 5th out of all midlaners and Doran ranked 5th on the topside.
But Doran is part of top 5 when it comes to solo killers at the lck, I think he even ranked number 1 last year summer.
The criticism is fair because he played poorly and even he himself admitted it during interview, but I think calling Doran useless and saying so many rude things about him is not fair at all. Yes he struggled, yes he played poorly but it is not fair to judge a player based on his bad series, or bad year. Remember he bloomed while he is being coached by Kkoma, Kkoma took a leave of absence, maybe Tom's coaching is different and maybe Doran is still adjusting, easyhoon is a new coach too. And to his haters, dont worry on one of Doran's stream he already mentioned that he has other goals that he wants to accomplish because he is not getting any younger, so the chance of him retiring after his contract is a big possibility, Kiin might be retiring too because he will serve at the military.
kasstne its this u
eitherways doran isn't 100% the blame cuz everyone other than peyz including the fucking water boy shitted the bed. The drafts were the real issue. m*ge bot resulted in teams like blg and hle to prioritize the laners to do the carrying instead of their adcs because mages bot can play the lane so safe that the supports can roam top and impact the rest of the lobby. T1 revolved around peyz and keria playing hypercarry + enchanter or pretty much some botlane wincon and they tried to adopt to a meta that they are not comftorble becausew doran gets individually gapped by atleast 15 toplaners in lane and faker lost his laning skills after ruler and perkz nuked him to azir duty.
The real fault is that these mfs made doran blindpick every game and allowed bb to play the most disgusting top counter picks to mankind. Its a huge top diff, but its mainly a coaching diff
gordonramsay [#48]I think they lost yesterday cause peyz was on a mage for like 50% of the series LMAO and doran got gapped by brokenbrain
tom saw his ass handed by velkoz bot and swain mid and made the genius idea to make doran bin and faker knight and make peyz be weakside the entire game. Oh wow what a brilliant stratagy
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