S0M MEETS HIS FATHER
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
2
3
-1
|
6
6
+0
|
7
3
+4
|
4
6
-2
|
2
3
-1
|
tex
NRG
|
6
6
+0
|
7
4
+3
|
4
9
-5
|
8
2
+6
|
3
8
-5
|
s0m
NRG
|
8
4
+4
|
4
3
+1
|
4
3
+1
|
9
7
+2
|
4
5
-1
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
1
2
-1
|
12
4
+8
|
6
4
+2
|
1
2
-1
|
6
6
+0
|
eeiu
NRG
|
11
5
+6
|
4
5
-1
|
10
4
+6
|
8
1
+7
|
10
5
+5
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
1
0
+1
|
1
3
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
1
2
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
tex
NRG
|
1
0
+1
|
3
1
+2
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
s0m
NRG
|
1
0
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
|
1
3
-2
|
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
4
0
+4
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
|
2
0
+2
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
tex
NRG
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
hazed
NRG
|
|
5
|
1
|
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
8
|
1
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
9
|
4
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
86
|
1
|
2
|
tex
NRG
|
|
3
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
1
|
0
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
52
|
3
|
2
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
7
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
1
|
2
|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
49
|
3
|
0
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
50
|
3
|
0
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
9
|
1
|
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
44
|
3
|
3
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
49
|
1
|
1
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
7
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
2
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
1
2
-1
|
3
4
-1
|
3
1
+2
|
1
4
-3
|
1
2
-1
|
tex
NRG
|
3
2
+1
|
3
3
+0
|
3
4
-1
|
5
2
+3
|
1
4
-3
|
s0m
NRG
|
2
4
-2
|
4
2
+2
|
1
2
-1
|
7
4
+3
|
1
2
-1
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
1
1
+0
|
5
2
+3
|
4
1
+3
|
0
1
-1
|
4
4
+0
|
eeiu
NRG
|
7
3
+4
|
3
2
+1
|
6
4
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
6
2
+4
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
|
1
1
+0
|
|
0
2
-2
|
1
0
+1
|
tex
NRG
|
1
0
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
1
2
-1
|
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
tex
NRG
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
hazed
NRG
|
|
2
Round 7
Shanks
supamen
Round 19
neptune
Derrek
|
|
|
|
1
Round 7
supamen
|
|
|
|
|
39
|
6
|
0
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
5
Round 3
Derrek
supamen
Round 5
Derrek
POISED
Round 7
Derrek
POISED
Round 11
Derrek
supamen
Round 12
supamen
Derrek
|
2
Round 6
supamen
POISED
Shanks
Round 18
supamen
Derrek
Shanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
93
|
1
|
1
|
tex
NRG
|
|
1
Round 19
supamen
POISED
|
1
Round 13
Derrek
supamen
Shanks
|
1
Round 16
Shanks
Derrek
tex
neptune
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
0
|
0
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
3
Round 6
neptune
Derrek
Round 8
POISED
supamen
Round 14
POISED
neptune
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 8
supamen
POISED
|
|
|
|
60
|
2
|
1
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
5
Round 1
Shanks
Derrek
Round 9
Shanks
POISED
Round 12
neptune
Shanks
Round 14
supamen
Shanks
Round 20
neptune
Shanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
0
|
0
|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
2
Round 7
tex
s0m
Round 12
tex
hazed
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
57
|
0
|
0
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
3
Round 5
s0m
tex
Round 7
eeiu
ANDROID
Round 15
s0m
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
48
|
1
|
0
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
4
Round 2
ANDROID
eeiu
Round 8
tex
s0m
Round 11
hazed
eeiu
Round 13
tex
hazed
|
1
Round 1
tex
ANDROID
s0m
|
|
|
2
Round 1
s0m
Round 11
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
34
|
1
|
3
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
4
Round 2
tex
hazed
Round 4
s0m
eeiu
Round 10
s0m
hazed
Round 20
eeiu
tex
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
1
|
1
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
5
Round 1
eeiu
hazed
Round 4
hazed
ANDROID
Round 9
eeiu
tex
Round 10
tex
ANDROID
Round 11
s0m
tex
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
0
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
1
1
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
4
2
+2
|
3
2
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
tex
NRG
|
3
4
-1
|
4
1
+3
|
1
5
-4
|
3
0
+3
|
2
4
-2
|
s0m
NRG
|
6
0
+6
|
0
1
-1
|
3
1
+2
|
2
3
-1
|
3
3
+0
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
0
1
-1
|
7
2
+5
|
2
3
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
2
2
+0
|
eeiu
NRG
|
4
2
+2
|
1
3
-2
|
4
0
+4
|
6
1
+5
|
4
3
+1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
1
0
+1
|
0
2
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
tex
NRG
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
s0m
NRG
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
3
0
+3
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
|
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
neptune
Rise
|
supamen
Rise
|
Shanks
Rise
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
hazed
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
tex
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
hazed
NRG
|
|
3
Round 7
supamen
neptune
Round 14
supamen
POISED
Round 16
Shanks
supamen
|
1
Round 6
neptune
Shanks
supamen
|
|
|
1
Round 6
supamen
|
|
|
|
|
67
|
2
|
1
|
eeiu
NRG
|
|
4
Round 2
POISED
Derrek
Round 9
Shanks
Derrek
Round 15
Shanks
neptune
Round 17
Shanks
supamen
|
2
Round 3
Shanks
POISED
supamen
Round 13
POISED
Shanks
supamen
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 13
Shanks
POISED
supamen
|
|
|
79
|
0
|
1
|
tex
NRG
|
|
2
Round 7
POISED
Shanks
Round 17
neptune
POISED
|
1
Round 11
Shanks
Derrek
neptune
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
48
|
1
|
0
|
ANDROID
NRG
|
|
2
Round 2
supamen
neptune
Round 8
neptune
POISED
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
43
|
1
|
1
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
2
Round 1
Derrek
supamen
Round 11
supamen
POISED
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
1
|
2
|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
3
Round 4
s0m
hazed
Round 5
ANDROID
s0m
Round 6
s0m
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
3
|
0
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
2
Round 6
tex
ANDROID
Round 12
s0m
hazed
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
52
|
2
|
0
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
5
Round 4
eeiu
ANDROID
Round 5
tex
eeiu
Round 8
s0m
tex
Round 10
hazed
eeiu
Round 12
ANDROID
tex
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
2
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
1
Round 1
tex
hazed
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
44
|
0
|
0
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
2
Round 10
s0m
ANDROID
Round 11
hazed
ANDROID
|
|
|
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|
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36
|
2
|
0
|
item [#9]Is there really any point to this game? If what purest says is true Knights are already a lock for playoffs and both NRG and Rise are out, the prize pool is the same too.
The only way Rise can make it to Playoffs is if this things happen:
OpTic loses to V1
OpTic loses to PK
Rise beats NRG
Then OpTic and Rise would be tied and Rise has the Head to Head advantage over OpTic.
But lets be realistic, i dont see a World where that happens.
Gqviria [#10]The only way Rise can make it to Playoffs is if this things happen:
OpTic loses to V1
OpTic loses to PK
Rise beats NRGThen OpTic and Rise would be tied and Rise has the Head to Head advantage over OpTic.
But lets be realistic, i dont see a World where that happens.
This isn't the only way.
With OpTic losing to V1 yesterday, there’s 2 ways rise can qual.
OpTic losing to PK, and Rise beating NRG. This puts PK and Rise into playoffs.
Or OpTic win big against PK, and Rise wins big vs NRG. Rise would have to have a better round differential than PK, and this would put OpTic and Rise into playoffs.
H2H isn’t the tiebreaker, round differential is.
bala [#12]This isn't the only way.
With OpTic losing to V1 yesterday, there’s 2 ways rise can qual.
OpTic losing to PK, and Rise beating NRG. This puts PK and Rise into playoffs.
Or OpTic win big against PK, and Rise wins big vs NRG. Rise would have to have a better round differential than PK, and this would put OpTic and Rise into playoffs.
H2H isn’t the tiebreaker, round differential is.
H2H is the tiebreaker for a two teams tie.
krpkalvr [#17]what stops nrg from throwing this match
idk man maybe ruining their careers because match fixing is a thing,not sure tho
drugsellernearyou [#19]idk man maybe ruining their careers because match fixing is a thing,not sure tho
I mean, not match fixing as in getting paid for losing, but not playing their 100% so Rise gets to qualify, i am sure there is no way to prove you arent playing at 100%.
I still think NRG is gonna win, but i guess thats what the other guy meant.
Caliburn0723 [#26]Is nv / optic out of tourney, if rise wins this?
nah optic gotta lose to knights which they wont
so rise and nrg are pretty much out
looklook [#27]nah optic gotta lose to knights which they wont
so rise and nrg are pretty much out
So there is a still a chance for them to lose right. JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. Since i saw some tweet saying som to win from nv plyayer.
Caliburn0723 [#28]So there is a still a chance for them to lose right. JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. Since i saw some tweet saying som to win from nv plyayer.
YEA HOPIUM COPIUM LES GO!
idiotmatchfixer [#33]nice throw by rise and shanks what a trash team. imagine lost to a team that play like a pug game dont deserve to go playoff at all
I agree. Just go ahead and disband the team, think they're worried more about streaming than playing competitive.
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juno_VLR [#35]i’m here to say that tsm would not have performed worse than EG, 100T, Rise, or NRG had they made it to groups. Still no excuse obviously, they choked so many times, but i’m hoping i can see them in season 2. it sucks to see teams go 1-4, hopefully they can work out their issues.
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lysenkerr [#39]is this the first ever vct win for a yoru comp? legendary map
Haha, I think you're right dude!
History has been made
pbp [#36]I agree. Just go ahead and disband the team, think they're worried more about streaming than playing competitive.
i disagree, there are a lot of teams that stream all the time and play a ton of ranked but still work really hard and get great results. The Guard is one of the hardest working teams in NA right now, and they're getting great, well-earned results, but they do stream a good bit. Trent and Sayaplayer both do twitch streams, yet they're some of NA's best. So you can definitely work hard while still streaming. Besides, I think this was just a one-game thing. Derrek really underperformed, and that's the main reason why they lost imo
juno_VLR [#35]i’m here to say that tsm would not have performed worse than EG, 100T, Rise, or NRG had they made it to groups. Still no excuse obviously, they choked so many times, but i’m hoping i can see them in season 2. it sucks to see teams go 1-4, hopefully they can work out their issues.
That's why they lost to ghost xD