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is TSM behind again in meta for not picking Kay0?

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cloudmoney

I search all of the breeze & ascent comps of the recent 4 (xset, nrg, guard, version1) who qualified. All of them have kayo in their comp whereas TSM have skye. is this because they have arguably the best skye NA (roza) but its just really not working for him base on the recent matches they played.

Hearing also from other pros like vanity, yay, etc., they said that corey is not comfortable playing as the main entry, he is more like the 2nd duelist/ entry. Also they said that roza is their most aggressive player and theyre wondering why hes not on the duelist role. Their opinions really matter because they are the ones who also said that tsm have problems entrying in fracture w/out duelist and now they have corey raze instead of kayo, they look good with it.

Should SUBROZA play Jett in breeze & ascent instead and put COrey on Kay/0? Whhat you think?

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no1xetafan
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As far as TSM is concerned my respect for Chet has increased a lot,He was able to make this T3 team somewhat competitive

#3
wohe
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i stopped reading at best skye NA.

#4
qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn
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wohe [#3]

i stopped reading at best skye NA.

arguably dumbass

#5
no1xetafan
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wohe [#3]

i stopped reading at best skye NA.

What u had to read it? i thought u ignore it

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cloudmoney
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wohe [#3]

i stopped reading at best skye NA.

i said arguably, just trying to say that is his best agent

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unknown_trash
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cloudmoney [#6]

i said arguably, just trying to say that is his best agent

hes not even the best skye in the closed qualifiers, forget about him being best skye NA. smh. Next time just say roza only knows how to play skye and cant play kayo

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hotpotatoman
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ethan best skye in NA

#9
wohe
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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#4]

arguably dumbass

dumbass he sais

#10
wohe
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cloudmoney [#6]

i said arguably, just trying to say that is his best agent

let me give u an example:
my friend at school is arguably the best football player in EUROPE
and it becomes valid just bcz i said arguably LMAO..... come on man.

#11
Carthage_Er_Pola
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Roza best skye in NA???? BASED ON WHAT????

#12
Dusti
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yes.i think wardell need to play jett.not corey

#13
indi_getrektson
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Carthage_Er_Pola [#11]

Roza best skye in NA???? BASED ON WHAT????

https://youtu.be/2n46KBglKaY

#14
Slashyiguess
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skye on breeze is just not it 🤷‍♂️

#15
trola
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gambit won all their match in breeze with skye against kayo, tsm just got team diff.

#16
dexter000111
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Kayo isn't that meta defining
TSM did not lose because of an agent selection
They just played like shit

#17
ciro
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Kayo is a niche agent, its not meta lol

#18
cloudmoney
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trola [#15]

gambit won all their match in breeze with skye against kayo, tsm just got team diff.

bruh dont talk about teams that doesnt even play this year/updates. thats why im basing on the recent matches because its more appropriate. Of course they won because skye is the s tier agent back then

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cloudmoney
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note that aint saying kayo is the meta rn for all of the maps, just saying on ascent and breeze coz kay0 is more picked than skye. the best teams who qualified pick it so it must say something why theyre winning and ghost gamng also have similar comp and maybe thats also the reason why they won.

Also, im not only talking about kay0 at all. im also talking about Corey not the best option for a jett role coz we can see that hes struggling entrying with it. We know that his raze is better and also im sure, his kay0 is better than his jett so why not put him on kay0 instead. thats why im suggesting to put roza on jett coz he always practice it and hes the aggressive type entry player that can make space w/ it

#20
justboy
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maybe if they don't let Astra entry for once they would win games

#21
juno_VLR
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wohe [#3]

i stopped reading at best skye NA.

skye is now subrozas worst agent, guy should be on perma astra duty

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juno_VLR
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dexter000111 [#16]

Kayo isn't that meta defining
TSM did not lose because of an agent selection
They just played like shit

^^^

#23
Abdul
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dexter000111 [#16]

Kayo isn't that meta defining
TSM did not lose because of an agent selection
They just played like shit

they said it themselves last two maps they fed

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Zladam
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no1xetafan [#2]

As far as TSM is concerned my respect for Chet has increased a lot,He was able to make this T3 team somewhat competitive

When were they competitive?

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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn
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wohe [#9]

dumbass he sais

don't think you know what arguably means... he is definitely top 5 and some people could argue that he is the best skye in NA but it doesn't mean that he is necessarily

#26
Stax_rb_op
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no1xetafan [#2]

As far as TSM is concerned my respect for Chet has increased a lot,He was able to make this T3 team somewhat competitive

i think kayo+chamber is working do good for teams.
Ghost agent selection (jett,kayo,chamber)were very similar on breeze and ascent and it worked for them...

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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#25]

don't think you know what arguably means... he is definitely top 5 and some people could argue that he is the best skye in NA but it doesn't mean that he is necessarily

top 5 maybe, but he's a better astra imo

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Soul_Stalker
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ciro [#17]

Kayo is a niche agent, its not meta lol

kayo is meta in certain map, because he can counter sova, by canceling the drone for being able to clear corner from far distant..

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avepalto
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Soul_Stalker [#28]

kayo is meta in certain map, because he can counter sova, by canceling the drone for being able to clear corner from far distant..

and counter cypher and astra

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YAYE
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avepalto [#29]

and counter cypher and astra

and chamber. its proven effective since wardell got suppressed a couple of times when he used his ult/pistol

#31
delusional_sentinels_fan1
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TSM doesn't even have a good Jett player, they have more things to worry about than just Kay/o

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