Whos chamber is better? and do remeber leaf chamber kickoff last year and champs ascent perfromnce
And davd is playing currently and do remeber boths playstyle is same and a big win condittion for their team.
do mention a reason for your ans
prx davd btwww
leaf or davd(chamber)
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yeah "predator"...
it's funny how the OP doesn't even realize what they're mentioning
i think davai is a good oper than leaf also leaf rarely plays chamber these days so thats that but i think both are good in their own ways
PRX were still having multiple top 3/4 finishes with different rosters unlike G2
they top 4 with 4 diff roster benkai moneyt patmen invy
g2 has with icy jawg babybay and guard roaster,,
guard roster didnt do shit and got shat on by Paper rex. The G2 with Icy had one good run. Same with the one with leaf. PRX has 4 finals appearances. d4vai was playing chamber and winning against Prime Optic.
well optic i give it and guard were way too close to beat them but it was prime chamber and we are talking about current and playing 4 finals doesnt mean shit if you cant win it according to your comments made earlier..
it does if you can do it consistently with different rosters. also d4vais chamber literally wins them maps on his own.
like i mean he is good but his lurk and shit is the problem not the smartest player
i dont see him aim diffing leaf or david and why i want a good lurker can be such a good win condition
you understand what aimm diffing means like they cant just win
majority of the timee its going to be 50/50
if you would have seen varrel asecion run they were aim diffing
can we stop disrespecting d4v4i's mechs he isn't getting aim diffed by alfa it is close between them but it isn't obvious cause d4v4i is on prx
davd? d4vd? if ur gonna say davai atleast spelling david right dawg unless I'm retarded or smthn ??
i wold say in bangkok it was more of t1 anti than leaf playing bad he was not abler to take his timings and of course g2 didint adapt a lot i think like tht if it happens now they are winning it..
Yay chamber is the best in the universe. 100000000x better than davai and leaf
Leaf lost confidence. The bangkok loss haunt him too much to the point that babybay had to be the chamber player instead. Davai never lost that confident and picks chamber regardless if its a bad day or a good day.
Tbh, he should had play vyse. Ego got to him and he never been the same since. Or maybe because the illness he got. Its probably that more than anything. No one is the same when they leave the hospital.
they are putting babybay on chamber because its more comfort for him and leaf can flex and thts wht they tought while making the change
play vyse he doesnt play becasue they want him lurking and on viper its more easy than vyse never been the same broo wht you high on he has been more consistent confidnet and better
flex looks inside, its alll smoke+phx. He can still be 100% better than before, there's no denying that. Oh and im talking about vyse during bangkok. Not now anymore since they got babybay on senti.
Edit: Im not saying he's a bad controller. Quite frankly, the role fits him better given the roster. But the argument still stands. You can see demon1 or davai goes double negative rating on chamber and they both still have the confidence to pick it again. Leaf probably never gets the chance to do it again unless there's a roster change.
VYSE DURING BANGKOK WAS PLAYED DIFFRENTLY THAN NOW AND IF HE WAS PLAYING VYSE HE WAS STILL THE LURKER WHICH IS QUITE HARD TO DO
AND WHT MAKES YOU THINK AFTER GOING DOUBLE NEGATIVE HE CANNOT PICK CHAMBER AGAIN??
Because any other agent would have been more useful than a chamber that can't shoot. Almost every pro had said this before. If you're having a bad day, there's nothing wrong with that. But try to at least pick things that are useful and bait for the team. He just had a blind confidence to pick the chamber at that exact moment and it turned out badly for him. (I'm sure it was the team's decision to put him on chamber. It's not saying it's he's at fault.)
Saying he should play Vyse is me being in hindsight. Because pushing Johnap onto Vyse while he played Chamber sounded good on paper, but it fell flat when Leaf was already having a bad game that day in the previous four maps. Kinda reminds me of what every pro had said. If you're having a bad day, let your teammate bait you.
I'm going to repeat myself, leaf picking the chamber in that exact moment was him showing confidence. That's why I said the confidence vanished after the game. NOT before the game. All of this is in hindsight, but there were cracks already showing in the previous four maps. He was clearly having a rough series.
A KJ turret and alarmbot would have been more useful in terms of map control. A sova with Tejo and him playing Vyse would have had more impact than a chamber. But hey, there's no need to be mad over spilled milk.
changing comps last minute sure broo name me a single team tht does tht? if hes not at fault why are you even mentioning the point and strats and a system is a thing you cannot change it last moement even frost cannot ?
playing a agent on a particular map which he might not have played before when set strats is a thing and people playing agents for a long time have ceratain reactions or play they might do because they are comfy example leaf wwould not have done tht play against 100 thieves if he was not perma viper he stated it himself .
tyhey have tried jonah p on chamber during guard time it diditn work out he is not him the solo reason on chamber you need a x factor player. which leaf is . could have baited they would need to change so many things last minute when they are a heavy micro based team its immposible.
sure bro a person is having a bad series tell him to play smthing tht he is not supposed to last minute would not kill his confidence?
he was top fragger in lotus was top 3 in kills every map except haven
same shit changing things last minute is not easy if you would have watched g2 tht kickoff you would have realsied a team would try to cut out his lurk timings and posi which is on g2 coach not on him(cannot blame g2 coacheds a lot there)
they were the best tejo team if they didnt run it there should be a reason for tht? and changing thing last minute.
and wht makes you think tht shit can only happen with leaf not with david or any other player prx lost to ns in grand final they lost to so many teams before does tht mean any of their confidence is fked or they are shit? on madrid when they lost to sentinels davd was bottom fragging did tht mean he became shit or he doesnt have tht cofnidence ?
Yeah, that's why I said it was all in hindsight. You sure can read the sentence that I had repeated three times now.
d4v41’s Chamber is way more fun to watch man, bro actually takes risks and does creative shit instead of playing everything safe. Leaf’s Chamber just feels too basic and structured
WELL THTS PRX IDENTTITY CANNOT BLAME LEAF FOR THT AND G2 IS ALSO CREATIVE IN THEIR OWN WAY ITS JUST WHAT YOU LIKE TO WATCH MORE..
guess wht it didnt work out so they go back to their own they wouldnt have made top4 in santiuago with prx identity
d4v41 is the better chamber because his skillset suits chamber more since d4v41 op clears
not a good argument consedring all the util and evertything was put to set him up not same with leaf or davd and he was never good after tht
nah. it wasn't the just the Chamber. it was y4y himself who kinda fell off. i think 2022 y4y would've dominated with this version of chamber as well.
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