Can MIBR make first seed

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silberfaust1

If Lev lose?

Im bad at math pls help.

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Inort

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Yes if it's h2h wait no

#4

silberfaust1

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bc liquipedia says they are second rn and i trust them more than vlr. So if Loud win against MIBR today they can make first no?

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Inort

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Max they can get is second as G2 has more maps

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AhhhYuhhh

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The map differential is only taken to account within all the tied teams from my understanding, MIBR is 6-0 against the other 3 teams.

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M1ssing

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No because if lev lose it is a 3 way tie and because g2 have a better map differential they would get first seed

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silberfaust1

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ah ok

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M1ssing

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Im pretty sure they are locked second unless lev lose 2-1 with a decently even round score though

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glittering_yard

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the map/rounds differential doesnt matter

its H2H first

MIBR wins the 4 way tie because they beat all of G2, LEV and LOUD

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CaxTonYT

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What 4 way tie? Also even if there was a 4 way tie map differential would be used

#15

foythvlr

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No its map h2h
4 way tie if lev loses (MIBR, G2, LOUD, LEV)

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CaxTonYT

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Yeah tomato tomato

#17

foythvlr

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map diff and h2h map diff are two different things

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glittering_yard

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I was just considering the series record overall

MIBR is 3-2
G2 is 3-2
LEV would be 3-2 if they lose to LOUD
LOUD would be 3-2 if they beat LEV

the first tie breaker is H2H and MIBR beat all of the other teams

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M1ssing

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ah, i thought it would always go to map differential in a 3 way tie no matter the h2h, my bad

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glittering_yard

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its okay, Riot can be very confusing with their rules and weird group formats

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M1ssing

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if they atleast had the same rules in every region... oh well

#8

MatikaneTannhauser

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theyre 1st seed if Lev just lose to Loud
idk why others are saying they cant be 1st seed, they 2-0'd LEV and G2

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dimmed

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If LEV lose, then MIBR are guaranteeed 1st seed. Don't listen to #3 who says otherwise they don't understand tiebreaker rules.

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he4venn

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they won't qualify to London so might as well not get first seed

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foythvlr

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MIBR is first seed unless Lev wins

#20

31Raven

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yes mibr gets first seed if lev lose, they have h2h against all 3 potential 3-2 teams

ill link u this too (shameless plug)
https://www.vlr.gg/673141/americas-groups-to-playoffs/