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#1
uwukitten

I recently started watching vct and wanted to learn about the teams and the major trophy winners. as a league viewer I decided the most efficient way would be to check out all worlds finals to see the teams

now I've seen a lot of discourse around pacific being the best region but when I checked all the finals I found something astounding, there's not a single pacific team in them?? I'm confused, is the website bugged or am I looking at the wrong tournaments? they're called Valorant Champions 202X right?

PS sorry if I offended anyone I just want to learn more about valorant

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MrBlooBloom
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0/8

#3
mondely
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0/8 NT

#4
scorpliet
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nvm it was bait

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Castawaytwizz
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Hi, as a long time viewer (watching valorant since fire was discovered) I can assure you that it's not a glitch and that Assific turn up for the mickey mouse tournaments and capitulate when it matters. Our leading researchers have been unable to find the cause of this phenomenon but our current working theory is that they just fucking suck 👍

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vibemerchant_25
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flair lol

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uwukitten
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thank you for the honest answer, not sure why everyone else is responding with fractions

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sawrice23
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bait or low iq, you call it

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larplarplarpsahur
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bump pls I'm also confused I thought Korea was the best subregion to ever grace video gaming

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to be fair, korea is the only country to win multiple trophies without importing a single player or coach no?

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uwukitten
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you must've missed when they imported king rossy, he taught T1 everything that led them to that trophy

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actually that was xccurate

#13
larplarplarpsahur
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ban is NA grown asw. all of NA's champs were won with homegrown talent no? This is kinda of a bad take....

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idk if you're baiting or not but neither ban nor xccurate nor rossy were on the t1 roster that won bangkok. every single player and coach on T1 Bangkok, GEN.G Shanghai, and NS Santiago was Korean. EG were full American, but NRG had bonkar and strong from EMEA as coaches and Mada is Canadian, and SEN/OpTic were mixed American/Canadian.

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larplarplarpsahur
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all I'm saying is majority of NA's exports to Asia were undeniably impactful to their team's success and denying that is delusional.

your other point is moot. all shooters were homegrown. NA talent at all tiers outpaces Korean talent easily. "American/Canadian" we both understand geography brother what is this

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i mean unless you're deliberately being obtuse I specified "country" and last I checked Canada and the USA are two different sovereign entities.

And I seriously doubt that Ban, xccurate, and Rossy were impactful to T1's success at Bangkok lol. With them, they got grouped at Shanghai. Without them, they won Bangkok. Using this logic, every team's success was built off the back of every single player to previously play for the org, which is speculative at best.

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larplarplarpsahur
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and I specified subregion?? last I checked Americas subregions -> na and sa.

I'm not here to be pedantic abt the specifics of your point. NA mogs your subregion. 2/3 of our exports took APAC teams to international placements. What is exa doing?? That is all....

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Depends on what you define by subregion as Americas subregions can also be Canada/USA/LATAM/BR as well. Like how in Pacific the subregions aren't divided into EA/SEA.

Either way, NA mogging Korea? That's not a take I'm contesting. Obviously NA is the best "region" in the history of Valorant based off placements and titles. But I'm suggesting Korea being arguably the best single country. Idk what's hard to understand here. Maybe you're just insistent on parading the accolades of NA.

Idk what exports took APAC teams to international placements. Ban and Governor on Talon getting grouped at Champs and....?

As for Exa, you were quick to specify Ban as being a homegrown NA talent, but also don't apply the same rules to Exa?

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8/8 IM VERY MAD 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬😠😠🤬😠😡😡👿👿💢😠

#18
vipermolly
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W ILikeEsports joke

#17
iamxk
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AHAHA

#21
delighted
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son

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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now I've seen a lot of discourse around pacific being the best region but when I checked all the finals I found something astounding, there's not a single pacific team in them??

The simple answer is that Pacific wasnt really all that hot except PRX and DRX except like 24 when you saw GenG make a crazy run in madrid and win shanghai, so thats what it was. Then from. 25 onwards they really turned up winning both masters, but somehow failed in champs.

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