Sage vs Vyse

Why pick sage when vyse is avaiable?
Vyse has better slow capacity
Better ult
Utility to gather intel on the flank
And more versatilty in playstyle (good option to lurk)
Picking sage is just dumb in this meta

100T is addicted to Sage on Split since forever

Sage slows are better for attack and the wall in mid split specifically allows for fast rotations if it's not broken, or for better retakes when saved

Ult being better is debatable. Vyse ult really doesn't last that long and it's more expensive. Res helps a lot esp if it was an early round attack death

GarbanzoEnjoyer [#3]

Sage slows are better for attack and the wall in mid split specifically allows for fast rotations if it's not broken, or for better retakes when saved

Ult being better is debatable. Vyse ult really doesn't last that long and it's more expensive. Res helps a lot esp if it was an early round attack death

The slow is arguably the same for attack, ehile its miles better on defense. The wall in mid holds a very similar value to the viper orb, I know that you can walk through the viper orb but its a very risky play but it stays avaiable the entire round. Also, Vyses ult isnt situational, you dont depend on someone dying in a safe enough position to res.

Vyse is way better on defense and might be slightly weaker on offense depending on the playstyle. Either way I think its a dumb pick.

nitzuvlr [#4]

The slow is arguably the same for attack, ehile its miles better on defense. The wall in mid holds a very similar value to the viper orb, I know that you can walk through the viper orb but its a very risky play but it stays avaiable the entire round. Also, Vyses ult isnt situational, you dont depend on someone dying in a safe enough position to res.

Vyse is way better on defense and might be slightly weaker on offense depending on the playstyle. Either way I think its a dumb pick.

Res is great for early attack deaths (as stated) or can be great midround if people have been traded out on site.

cirruss [#5]

Res is great for early attack deaths (as stated) or can be great midround if people have been traded out on site.

Sutr I agree with that, but the character overall is inferior to vyse

nitzuvlr [#6]

Sutr I agree with that, but the character overall is inferior to vyse

on Split i think sage has a lot of good use cases. Obviously vyse is better on maps like pearl and lotus though, but each has their own maps. vyse also isnt all that