His suspension is up and he's no longer under any kind of investigation.
I feel like pro val is at a lacking something without him, he's such an interesting player to watch
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no tier 1 team can get him atm stop with this https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1481041915990757381
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#9]hopefully never
Well what he did was absurd but i dont think he should be punished like that i mean never letting him play valorant ever is so dumb
andrewdamf [#15]"i totally have proof that he r'ped me!!!
*Doenst show up to the court"
Americans: ok fuck him lets destroy his career so he doenst go to any team and blindly support the girl because, woman. Right guys 🤪
u have no brain im so sorry for u
Noob_dart [#13]Well what he did was absurd but i dont think he should be punished like that i mean never letting him play valorant ever is so dumb
If he's an alleged rapist then there is no reason for him to be allowed to play pro
andrewdamf [#15]"i totally have proof that he r'ped me!!!
*Doenst show up to the court"
Americans: ok fuck him lets destroy his career so he doenst go to any team and blindly support the girl because, woman. Right guys 🤪
I mean he wasn’t cooperating with the investigation anyways
andrewdamf [#15]"i totally have proof that he r'ped me!!!
*Doenst show up to the court"
Americans: ok fuck him lets destroy his career so he doenst go to any team and blindly support the girl because, woman. Right guys 🤪
It's like you're trying to sound retarded on purpose lmao, she literally provided proof in her twitlonger you brainlet.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]It's like you're trying to sound retarded on purpose lmao, she literally provided proof in her twitlonger you brainlet.
Yeah guys such proof as? A 15 sec audio!!!!
yaiima0 [#19]I mean he wasn’t cooperating with the investigation anyways
Riot investigation dumbass 💀 he cooperated with the cops but the one that IS the "victim" didnt
andrewdamf [#22]Yeah guys such proof as? A 15 sec audio!!!!
It's literally her saying no and him not stopping, that's rape. It could be a 3 second video and it would still be rape.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#24]It's literally her saying no and him not stopping, that's rape. It could be a 3 second video and it would still be rape.
bro hes a loud fan. The Brazilians already told us theyre 12 year old tiktok kids.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#24]It's literally her saying no and him not stopping, that's rape. It could be a 3 second video and it would still be rape.
Then why hes not in jail? Actually braindead 😭
andrewdamf [#26]Then why hes not in jail? Actually braindead 😭
You're clearly 11 and have no clue how court works, I'm just gonna stop responding this is like talking to a brick wall.
Marty [#25]bro hes a loud fan. The Brazilians already told us theyre 12 year old tiktok kids.
Im not a loud fan aspas is just at the team so im gonna want them to win
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]It's like you're trying to sound retarded on purpose lmao, she literally provided proof in her twitlonger you brainlet.
Sinatraa is innocent.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#27]You're clearly 11 and have no clue how court works, I'm just gonna stop responding this is like talking to a brick wall.
Then how it works? U have all the time to respond brother but if you cant just see the truth just dont say nonsense shit 👍
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#18]If he's an alleged rapist then there is no reason for him to be allowed to play pro
I acutally dont know whats the full case but law should handle that na if he is rapist and what do you mean by rape man wtf is a rape i been questioning this thing after my father once got accused of false rape case just because that women (tenant) didnt wanna give money to us, all rape means is sex without consent right ? But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina because they think that sex ia painful for women while its pleasurable for men. if it goes by the defination of sex without consent cant the same thing be said by men and it acutally becomes meaningless. Sorry just got carried away downvote me if you want but i really dont know wtf is rape
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]It's like you're trying to sound retarded on purpose lmao, she literally provided proof in her twitlonger you brainlet.
do u really think the court would decide off a clip which isnt even a minute long? this isnt a movie LOL
andrewdamf [#22]Yeah guys such proof as? A 15 sec audio!!!!
vlr logic man, twitlonger, twitter is always right thats proof( i dont like sen or sinatraa cuz of rivalry, but without concerete proof its sickening to call some1 a rapist)
andrewdamf [#26]Then why hes not in jail? Actually braindead 😭
because rape victims almost never get justice unless they have clear cut proof, plus even if he was proven 100% he probably still wouldn't be in jail by now because court takes a long ass time
Noob_dart [#13]Well what he did was absurd but i dont think he should be punished like that i mean never letting him play valorant ever is so dumb
Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
Noob_dart [#31]I acutally dont know whats the full case but law should handle that na if he is rapist and what do you mean by rape man wtf is a rape i been questioning this thing after my father once got accused of false rape case just because that women (tenant) didnt wanna give money to us, all rape means is sex without consent right ? But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina because they think that sex ia painful for women while its pleasurable for men. if it goes by the defination of sex without consent cant the same thing be said by men and it acutally becomes meaningless. Sorry just got carried away downvote me if you want but i really dont know wtf is rape
Don't comment on this situation if you don't know what rape is
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#18]If he's an alleged rapist then there is no reason for him to be allowed to play pro
don't get me wrong, I'm not a sinatraa fan, but I think y'all need to chill out when you're throwing around a word such as rapist. for all we know he is innocent. his gf dropped the case, didn't provide evidence, etc. etc., so unless something else happens, you should be assuming that he's innocent for now.
jimjam789 [#32]do u really think the court would decide off a clip which isnt even a minute long? this isnt a movie LOL
that's assuming she doesn't have more, which she might, and realistically would if she thinks she has a chance in a court of law
tinted [#41]don't get me wrong, I'm not a sinatraa fan, but I think y'all need to chill out when you're throwing around a word such as rapist. for all we know he is innocent. his gf dropped the case, didn't provide evidence, etc. etc., so unless something else happens, you should be assuming that he's innocent for now.
he is so innocent he failed to comply with riot's investigation and got ban hammered
bandwagondestroyer [#33]vlr logic man, twitlonger, twitter is always right thats proof( i dont like sen or sinatraa cuz of rivalry, but without concerete proof its sickening to call some1 a rapist)
i mean sinatraa never disputed any of the claims and just said he will prove he is innocent (publicly) and failed to comply with riot's investigation
BadlandsChugs [#42]that's assuming she doesn't have more, which she might, and realistically would if she thinks she has a chance in a court of law
well clearly she didnt think she had a chance....considering shes the one who didnt further pursue the case
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
Wtf is rape is tell me na is it acutally meaningful if they both were partners tell me a proper defination that has something in it
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
You can only talk motherfucker i saw how this shit is fucked up
shrado [#38]Don't comment on this situation if you don't know what rape is
Idc about the downvotes i witnessed how onesided this shit really is and u wont think its absurd until you get in one and i meant a fake one
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
Why sex with a man without his consent is not considered a rape tell me why the fuck it isnt neutral
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
Stupid fuck
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
Double faced society
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
Motherfuckers like you cant even care about life and cant make rape neutral always have a narrow vision of life, you should care about people not genders especially when we are on the only planet that has life
st0nks [#44]he is so innocent he failed to comply with riot's investigation and got ban hammered
I don't know everything about the situation but I'm pretty sure he said he would provide info but ended up not having it (his gf had it instead). he got banned because he said he would provide evidence and didn't. I don't think that has much to do with him being guilty, but I may be wrong, so please correct me if so.
Noob_dart [#53]Motherfuckers like you cant even care about life and cant make rape neutral always have a narrow vision of life, you should care about people not genders especially when we are on the only planet that has life
chill out dude, it's just vlr. the world isn't ending.
shrado [#37]Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.
And btw i dont give a shit about sinatra i never watched his stream i gave my opinion based on what happened on my father
Noob_dart [#56]And btw i dont give a shit about sinatra i never watched his stream i gave my opinion based on what happened on my father
Was he a rapist too?
Noob_dart [#58]Fake rape case did u even read my comment
Women don't lie about stuff like this, it's a big deal.
shrado [#59]Women don't lie about stuff like this, it's a big deal.
Lol how old are you you would only learn when this shit will happen to you i dont wanna waste my time on someone who is delusional
Noob_dart [#60]Lol how old are you you would only learn when this shit will happen to you i dont wanna waste my time on someone who is delusional
I am not a rapist and thus have nothing to fear
ciro [#5]I dont miss t3 NA players, explain why you do
Joke or not this could be true. Last time we saw Sinatraa in pro play was long time ago. He played in era where most players and teams were much weaker than what they are today. His strengths were his ability usage when no one else knew how to properly play agents like Sova.
Noob_dart [#49]Idc about the downvotes i witnessed how onesided this shit really is and u wont think its absurd until you get in one and i meant a fake one
omg dude. how old are you to not know the meaning of rape. sex without verbal consent is rape (in some cases even if there is verbal consent, its considered rape). grow the fuck up. what happened to your dad is very saddening but that does not mean there are no survivors in this world.
shrado [#61]I am not a rapist and thus have nothing to fear
Lol actual dumbfuck DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT? and give me a proper defination of rape and why rape is not neutral i shouldve just stop right here but then i remembered you didnt gave these answers tell me
Noob_dart [#65]Lol actual dumbfuck DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT? and give me a proper defination of rape and why rape is not neutral i shouldve just stop right here but then i remembered you didnt gave these answers tell me
Noob_dart [#65]Lol actual dumbfuck DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT? and give me a proper defination of rape and why rape is not neutral i shouldve just stop right here but then i remembered you didnt gave these answers tell me
TELL ME??!?!! WHAT IS GOOGLE?!?!!? 🤬🤬🤬🤬 HOW DO I SEARCH FOR A QUESTION ON INTERNET DUMBFUCK!?!!"
shrado [#69]TELL ME??!?!! WHAT IS GOOGLE?!?!!? 🤬🤬🤬🤬 HOW DO I SEARCH FOR A QUESTION ON INTERNET DUMBFUCK!?!!"
Wtf are u saying 🤣 u replied that you are not a rapist so you didnt have to fear while i said my father was accused of fake case
Noob_dart [#70]Wtf are u saying 🤣 u replied that you are not a rapist so you didnt have to fear while i said my father was accused of fake case
Why ask me for a definition of rape when you can just google it lol
shrado [#71]Why ask me for a definition of rape when you can just google it lol
You just casually turned away from answers again bye you are actually braindead ew
Noob_dart [#72]You just casually turned away from answers again bye you are actually braindead ew
stay mad kid
rishu004 [#63]omg dude. how old are you to not know the meaning of rape. sex without verbal consent is rape (in some cases even if there is verbal consent, its considered rape). grow the fuck up. what happened to your dad is very saddening but that does not mean there are no survivors in this world.
"But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina" defination by wikipedia "Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent" i only said that the defination of law does not include male which is wrong because pain can be felt by both the genders and same amount of brain trauma if they are victim but if the law wouldve included male too and made it an neutral crime then both criminal and victim wouldve been considered victims and it would make rape meaning less. You guys just saw that i dont know meaning of rape and started comenting
tinted [#41]don't get me wrong, I'm not a sinatraa fan, but I think y'all need to chill out when you're throwing around a word such as rapist. for all we know he is innocent. his gf dropped the case, didn't provide evidence, etc. etc., so unless something else happens, you should be assuming that he's innocent for now.
first of all his gf didnt withdraw the case. get your facts right.
andrewdamf [#17]Nice argument
u r actually brain dead. every human being has a different way to cope with trauma. its her wish how she decides to deal with it. there was literally voice recordings of sinaatra forcing himself on her when she repeadtedly said no. and have u seen their chats? sinatra is the most egomainiac control freak dudebro.
jimjam789 [#46]well clearly she didnt think she had a chance....considering shes the one who didnt further pursue the case
the case is still ongoing
rishu004 [#76]first of all his gf didnt withdraw the case. get your facts right.
technically? no, she didn't "drop" it. but she did stop pursuing it, which suggests that she doesn't have sufficient evidence to keep pursuing it (unless there's some other reason I'm unaware of).
Noob_dart [#72]You just casually turned away from answers again bye you are actually braindead ew
im sorry to say but ur a literal 1head. it goes both ways, if a woman rapes a man without his consent its also bad, just doesnt happen as often. ok?
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#18]If he's an alleged rapist then there is no reason for him to be allowed to play pro
thats not how it works tho? like "alleged" literally means accused/said with no concrete proof, if he were to be a rapist i would agree but there are no conclusions in that way and theres no true evidence thats been provided. he wasn't right for not providing the full evidence as he said he would but theres also nothing to conclude that he IS a rapist?
shrado [#59]Women don't lie about stuff like this, it's a big deal.
it is an extremely small percentage but it does happen - more cases go unreported though
however, there should be due process; there never should be "they said so it must be true" especially when its about something so severe
tinted [#54]I don't know everything about the situation but I'm pretty sure he said he would provide info but ended up not having it (his gf had it instead). he got banned because he said he would provide evidence and didn't. I don't think that has much to do with him being guilty, but I may be wrong, so please correct me if so.
He said he had evidence. Then said that cleo stole the evidence or smth. Then cleo said wtf u mean bro.
Also the not working with investigation is overall more stuff. I mean the evidence part was some of it though.
tinted [#79]technically? no, she didn't "drop" it. but she did stop pursuing it, which suggests that she doesn't have sufficient evidence to keep pursuing it (unless there's some other reason I'm unaware of).
Death threats. I mean both sides got them. I feel like probably they had an agreement or sum shit probably at some point to just stop this. Even if it wasn't as many as cleo was saying. knowing sinatraa fans, it was probably still pretty bad.
phnxe [#8]why would he go pro when he's making the big bucks streaming
^^
Even if he goes pro in tier 1, he would actually be gaining less money than if he was just streaming probably. We can see this from the SEN roster. Unless he just doesn't scrim KEKW.
Asphyxia [#85]He said he had evidence. Then said that cleo stole the evidence or smth. Then cleo said wtf u mean bro.
Also the not working with investigation is overall more stuff. I mean the evidence part was some of it though.
ok. thanks for the clarification, that makes a bit more sense.
alecpog [#82]im sorry to say but ur a literal 1head. it goes both ways, if a woman rapes a man without his consent its also bad, just doesnt happen as often. ok?
Acutally you all win i dont wanna talk about this shit do what you gotta do maybe its like that in japan but please for fuck sake see my flag (male rape not even comes in mind of indian law) this thing went too away i am sorry in the begining i just pointed a flaw how one sided this shit is and my comment both covered fake case + rape by women although i agree that the rape cases by women is extreamly small but the same is not true about fake case nvm who am i to talk with you all intellectuals
tinted [#88]ok. thanks for the clarification, that makes a bit more sense.
I mean we still don't know shit though, because it was just a mess of twitlongers lol.
kumi [#92]god every time someone mentions his name this website turns in to legal team andys who either are the biggest sinatraa haters or the biggest sinatraa dick munchers
none of you know anything about what happened and none of you actually care please stop
actually true, I'ma leave this thread.
Noob_dart [#74]"But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina" defination by wikipedia "Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent" i only said that the defination of law does not include male which is wrong because pain can be felt by both the genders and same amount of brain trauma if they are victim but if the law wouldve included male too and made it an neutral crime then both criminal and victim wouldve been considered victims and it would make rape meaning less. You guys just saw that i dont know meaning of rape and started comenting
the fuck are you talking about....
kumi [#92]god every time someone mentions his name this website turns in to legal team andys who either are the biggest sinatraa haters or the biggest sinatraa dick munchers
none of you know anything about what happened and none of you actually care please stop
lmfao true
during lans the average vlr pleb comes off as an armchair analyst
when any sinatraa thread comes up they turn into lawyers
Noob_dart [#53]Motherfuckers like you cant even care about life and cant make rape neutral always have a narrow vision of life, you should care about people not genders especially when we are on the only planet that has life
wha.....
QuinTessencee [#84]it is an extremely small percentage but it does happen - more cases go unreported though
however, there should be due process; there never should be "they said so it must be true" especially when its about something so severe
I was just baiting lol
Marty [#25]bro hes a loud fan. The Brazilians already told us theyre 12 year old tiktok kids.
Nice catch never trust a loud fan
Noob_dart [#74]"But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina" defination by wikipedia "Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent" i only said that the defination of law does not include male which is wrong because pain can be felt by both the genders and same amount of brain trauma if they are victim but if the law wouldve included male too and made it an neutral crime then both criminal and victim wouldve been considered victims and it would make rape meaning less. You guys just saw that i dont know meaning of rape and started comenting
ur the most braindead person ive ever seen. please delete ur account.
jblancard [#102]ur the most braindead person ive ever seen. please delete ur account.
True deleting my account bye
Noob_dart [#74]"But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina" defination by wikipedia "Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent" i only said that the defination of law does not include male which is wrong because pain can be felt by both the genders and same amount of brain trauma if they are victim but if the law wouldve included male too and made it an neutral crime then both criminal and victim wouldve been considered victims and it would make rape meaning less. You guys just saw that i dont know meaning of rape and started comenting
no1 said a man cant be raped
and how is the criminal victim if they're doing the rape
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