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The problem with NRG

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#1
themaniel

I really like keiko and mada and it would be cool for them to win trophies

but if they win more people will genuinely start believing that Ethan is the goat

I don't think I can handle that

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Agreed

#4
themaniel
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I thought it was bad enough when forkbacon started getting snuck into the goat conversation

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i mean i think its aspas currently but if you go by throphies ethan has to be up there especially with aspas current decline in form

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Germy
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aspas has a singular trophy and it was from pre-franchising with a pancada carry... hes never been the goat

#39
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hes put up the best stats every season either you rank players by trophy count or by their performance statistically

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P100P
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Or Both, Like Derke, Chron and Alfa :P

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OhDrxw
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agreed

#5
lyssss
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Agreed, hes not top 20

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themaniel
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Okay that's pushing it

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x_knowitall39_x
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never been the best player (or even close to) on his team so dw he wont ever be the goat.

will eventually dethrone boaster for best IGL tho

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themaniel
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I think he has a long way to go when it comes to becoming greatest IGL oat

#7
tv0rusluke
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not even top 25 individually btw

fuck not even top 35

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mondely
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I root against them simply because their pearl comp boils my blood.

Listen to this:

  • killjoy mollies
  • sova shockdarts
  • astra suck
  • tejo missiles
  • brawk odin spam

All of this for their post plant.

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catNmouse
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If you think that’s bad then imagine what it was like in the prime tejo meta

#18
mondely
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There was no odin spam in prime tejo meta

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jawn
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guess what you're about to watch

#29
mondely
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Now u people will understand my hate

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dimmed
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NRG love playing post plant and I hate it so much. I always hated watching their pearl and abyss because of that

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mondely
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Yeh thank god they lost. Would hate to watch cancer post plant win them the game

#9
mDd
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NO PROBLEM

#12
quixdotpng
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Your Ethan Arnold ragebait does not amuse me.

#14
FNS_KITTEN
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I honestly don't understand the Ethan hate, explain further.

#17
lyssss
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hes individually not even remotely close to being the goat, but nrg fans keep pushing this false narrative for no reason just because he got carried 2 times, being the worst on his team by far both times

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FNS_KITTEN
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you can NEVER get carried into winning a champion trophy, but i'll fall for your bait and level with you

to do it twice with 4 different players is lowkey insane, i'll somewhat understand if he got carried twice by the same roaster

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Kiles

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espeon
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just want to say that it's hard to compare 2021 champs with 2025 champs, but being carried to a champs trophy is almost impossible

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shrike-
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True but kiles nearly did lose them a trophy

not even comparable to ethan who pretty much singlehandedly won it for NRG

#37
espeon
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yes i agree, kiles was awful L0L

ethan is genuinely an amazing support player and has become a top igl, what everyone says is all bait

#28
lyssss
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ethan is the ultimate proof that u can get carried, even more than once

#36
n0sey
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Nah he owned Fnatic on Sunset

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jawn
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to find a way to be the worst player in 2 different rosters is truly impressive icl

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themaniel
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It's not hate

I just can't watch him play and think "that's the greatest player to ever touch this game"

He deserves to be top 10 minimum for his achievements but no where near goat

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As much as I love NRG, and Ethan is the ONLY 2x Champs Winner. I think his name breaks the top 10 OAT

However, I think he is Top 3 best Initiators OAT

#15
Gugul1
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playing only 5 internationals in 16 events is crazy ... while chronicle has made 6 finals

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shrike-
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people just be hating ethan bro

like you don’t gotta think he’s a mechanical god but you can’t deny he plays good valorant

#23
themaniel
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He is good

In the same way that forkbacon is good

Just not goat

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shrike-glazer
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ong my goat, they don't know Ethan's greatness

#19
wizurdsss
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lmao

#21
foythvlr
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see thats the problem when people say goats should me measured by achievements. yay and demon1 have each one title forever ago and both have more cultural impact than both ethan and chronicle

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themaniel
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Yeah like s1mple was the goat of CS for a while and didn't he only win 1 major?

Unless I have my CS history wrong

#35
foythvlr
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I dont know about the achivements but i do know a lot of people called him GOAT for a while lol

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Maine
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😭😭😭

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